Thank you for the reference, I have heard of similar proposed theories, and this dovetails into them, given enough thought a good theory based on the observed data will arise, it is much stronger now that 30 years ago.

I would like that thanks Nickursis.

Indeed, but I wonder how much of that is being done here, as we see history constantly rewritten for "correctness" and the education establishment manipulates the books they use.

Great, they have it on audiobook from Audible. So I can listen to it on the way to work, thanks. Maybe we can start a thread afterward and discuss.

Cool, thanks! I went to his site and he does have an interesting theory, it could explain a lot of things, without alien intervention.

There were probably several across the country, one explanation was advanced that a large lake encompassed the entire Northeast, and it broke creating the St Lawrence channel, as well as dumping a huge amount of fresh water into the Gulf Stream, breaking the conveyor and causing a mini ice age to follow.

The Wilmette Valley benefited from that, a lot of people think it was just a glacial scar, but the fertile soil is what came from the flood. The Native Americans have numerous stories of the great flood as well.

Intresting study, you can see a lot of north /south mountains, which makes sense for farthest souther penetration during the glacial period, then as they retreat, they melt, forming the large lakes. So, that would account for the lower seal levels, and lend support to some of the "wild" claims made by some of the more out there archeologists for civilization going back a lot further than currently thought by mainstream. It also would support the theory about the Younaguni structure being a seacoast city from at least 10K years ago.

12900 bc the start of the younger dryas period coincides with the instant extinction of mastodons, giant sloths, horses and 30 others in N.America. Cause was a large impact similar to Shoemaker- levy comet hitting Jupiter . The impact instantly melted a 2 mile thick ice sheet over Canada. This theory by Wittke , Kennett , West and Firestone presented in 2007 with much supporting evidence. It has been suggested the Lake Missoula ice dam could not have provided enough volume of water to create the grand coulee gouge.

J Harlan Bretz first to claim a massive flood caused to scablands to form. He was ostracized
By the geological community for 50 years for his proper conclusion. The reason the geologists had a gradualism theory they wanted to protect.
Much evidence now points to something other than the lake Missoula ice dam.

That was the Missoula Flood. A backed up Lake in the Rockies broke through the melting ice jam and a torrent of water roared down into eastern Washington and kept on going on down the Columbia. It scoured the land of any soil it had - hence the scablands. Turns out a lot of the sediments that were redeposited are in giant ripple marks that can only be seen as such from the air. Rolling farmland these days are on these monster scale ripple marks. There were humans in the area at the time; makes you think that it would indeed be memorable.

The Amargosa River flows south, bends around and then north into Death Valley. It fed a Pleistocene Lake called Lake Manley, after the Manley Party of emigrants that gave the valley its name in 1847.

This is quite off topic from Jesus's tomb, but here is a link to the Pleistocene Lakes of the Great Basin:

https://pubs.er.usgs.gov/publication/...

Click on Plate 1 for the map.

Again, great topic.

When I lived in Fallon, Nevada, we always used to say we were the proud owners of lake bottom property!

Over 1000 known flood myths world wide. Evidence close to home is the scablands in Washington.

Nickursis , You might check out this author who has uncovered with extensive research, evidence of a lost world wide civilization that was wiped out by a massive devastating flood caused by a meteor that split up and left a debris field from the Yukon to Syria .
Hancock, Graham (2015). Magicians of the Gods. Coronet

One can't deny the good and evil in the world.

Those barbarians are the Religious fanatics who need to destroy history to buttress their false claims to being THE religion.

Very true nickursis, unfortunately the current Era's obliteration of ancient sites is just a long line of conquerers or just stupid lazy humans who did much the same thing.

Nice...

Then you have front row seats! I am willing to bet the great Basin in SoCal where Death Valley is was once a lake as well, I just saw an article claiming most of CA sits on a huge underground basin they did not know was there.

Indeed, there is a detailed reconstruction of the Snake River and Columbia and how they came about, and the time frame also is in the window. Maybe it is collective memory of various floods, not a single event, but the distance in time makes it seem so. The end of the Ice Age saw a lot of dammed areas break open.

I just embellished upon your point before seeing it was out there. I think it took me 19 minutes to write before I did a refresh! Great topic.

I live in the Great Basin, where you can see the high strand lines of the Pleistocene Lakes Bonneville and Lahontan WAY up the mountainsides.

There are some interesting speculations that floods in various parts of the world are the source of fable through vocal history. Actual floods did occur to ancient peoples at the end of the last ice age. The Missoula Flood, the Black Sea inundation are well studied examples.

Even the Great Salt Lake, when it reached its maximum height, it burst through its Great Basin containment north into Idaho and on down the Snake and Columbia Rivers. Quaternary experts estimate it may have been pouring through the breach for a hundred years scouring softer sediments down finally to hard bed rock. Then lake levels stabilized again.

Ocean sediment drill cores in the Mediterranean indicate that the sea may have nearly dried up. Salt evaporite beds were deposited at extremely low levels. With rising sea levels the Atlantic apparently broke through at the straits of Gibraltar, perhaps catastrophically.

The last ice age maximum retreated between 9,000 and 13,000 years ago, before any real written record. But numerous human societies were affected, sometimes catastrophically, sometimes with just rapid change of habitats and resources over a number of generations.

The speculation is amazing as to how many ancient human dwelling sites are now under water. Some have been found, like in the Black Sea.

I can tell you what went on in the seventies. A schoolmate of mine mooned the tomb and was promptly arrested and sent to prison. The article forgot to mention the Moonies LOL .

Indeed so. That is the shame when such sites are obliterated by barbarians who have no reason other than spite to destroy them. Same thing happened in Afghanistan.

The thing with the Flood myth, is that it appears in almost all cultures, even to island ones, that were isolated. That was one of his points. If you look at the archeological side, there is evidence of villages in the black sea, as well as a land bridge not tool long ago to England, as well as underwater sites in various parts of the world. One theory I saw said as little as 12K years ago, there was a much lower sea level with a lot of the water locked up at the poles. So much for the global warming crowd.