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Windows 10 Upgrade Problem: Microsoft Scheduling Auto Updates

Posted by $ nickursis 8 years ago to Technology
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And another nice trick from those kind MS folks, if you really, really do not want to go to Win10, look out for this one...
SOURCE URL: https://bgr.com/2016/05/17/windows-10-upgrade-problem-popup-schedule/

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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 8 years ago
    Yeah this bloatware is incredibly annoying and intrusive. Developing an open world on-line computer game, the lack of DirectX 12 will hurt but I'm sticking with windows 7 for as long as I am able. Its taken a conscious effort on my part to locate all of what is necessary to remove this crap, and continue to remove it, since MS has taken pains to repeatedly and stealthily push it on consumers.
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    • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years ago
      AJ, one reason I post a lot of this stuff is it does get below the radar with the numerous ways MS is screwing people. Now they have an "upgrade" coming to Win10 that will double the adds in your start menu, which you will also have to fight to remove. That seems to be the logic behind all of what they do, give away the OS for free then you cannot sue when they cram crap into it, as you lose no value, it was worthless to start with.
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      • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 8 years ago
        I think its more to do with data collection and demographics which they can then sell to people who wish to target consumers. Its one thing to have the option to turn-on this type of stuff and another entirely to have it automatically turned on at install and you have to research now to close the holes.
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        • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years ago
          Yes, they have moved to a Google model, since information is unending and can be sold over and over. OS go only once, then you have to support. Negative value to them.
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          • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years ago
            Only until people discover the undernet and the free info sources. I view information as once posted belongs to everyone. I don't mind if it's used. MS isn't selling information and they aren't much selling software anymore. not sure what their claim to fame is besides harassing computer users and supporting Soros and Clinton
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            • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years ago
              Well, information, as such, should be free and clear, and it usually is. I would say it is the collection, parsing and selling of results that is the product. Google makes a huge income on just that. All those Google searches do not just go in the bit trash. MS is just like most of everything else today: unable to come up with original thought. So they copy, and strangle the data out of their users. Then steal it...
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              • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years ago
                It isn't free but if the originators the real originators quit providing it ....turned off their motors....there would be nothing left to sell I pay nothing to google. Amazon gets value received for value provided. I never use MS products. except the one that came with the machine and there share of $160.00 for my tricked out W7 is ok by me. If they don't leave it alone there is linux and that is value for value received. I just told the local repair guy why I would not pay for a job if avast was included free or not and why. Even the idea of cell phones as an invasion of privacy was a foreign idea. gradually got the guy and his wife both tech graduates running their own business to think about ethics as it affects individuals ..they are still in the Catolico mode of spilling the beans to the priests in exchange for vague promises of the hereafter. which is fine but it does nothing to protect an individual here on earth. Now I'm thinking what is the simplest easiest available in other languages source to start someone on the ideas and ideals of objective thinking. So i demonstrated instead. Now i am awaiting a spanish language version of AS again. One or two more on the path to ....it's enough and they don't use Avast anymore ...
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                • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years ago
                  Indeed, the religious attitude of make me happy and holy later, while I screw my neighbor today (or in Arab lands, kill them), is one reason I do not generally do anything with avowed religious zealots of any stripe. They will say one thing, pray for another and do a third, all the while praising the high holy. Then they steal everything and think how smart they are. Ethics as applied to individuals is a great thing to preach, it is hard for most people to comprehend, as no one ever told them the church did not have copyright on them, and if they did, it would be revoked for abuse.
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      • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years ago
        Noting new there. The business model openly stated for decades is get it on the market now we'll fix the problems later. Some might call that a conspiracy to defraud but it's done with permission of the government.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years ago
    "and it’s honestly a big upgrade from Windows 7 and 8 "
    The author is a statist idiot.
    MSFT products have been going downhill since XP. Win 7 is tolerable after adding a lot of software to reverse MSFT's "enhancements." W8 was an unmitigated disaster from day one, and W10 is one big invasion of privacy. MSFT claims its with consent of the user, but if it updates without explicit user authorization it is not with consent.
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    • Posted by $ nickursis 8 years ago
      freedom: see my above. MSFT is building revenue streams to support their sagging stock. While you pay once for the OS, they will make it free so they can cram ads etc and generate ongoing revenue vice the one shot purchase they support for years to come.A bad model when people have an expectation of buying a product, but most people got hooked with "free". TANSTAFFL.
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      • Posted by freedomforall 8 years ago
        A bad model when the product has saturated the market. I understand their logic, but I don't agree that unethical company growth is required for survival. Of course, I never agreed with selling products that aren't ready either, and many large software houses do that to compete. As a developer I think its unethical to make your paying customers debug the product after its release. None of the ceo's are Hank Rearden. Growth has become the hghest priority (regardless of injury to innocent bystanders) for many large entities, commercial ventures and governments. Capitalism and business in general get the blame for unethical behavior of individuals at the top of such organizations because they are rewarded for unethical behavior. The system is broken and it may take a customer revolt to fix it.
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