So it begins: minimum wages driving job losses

Posted by $ blarman 8 years ago to Business
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You can bet other fast food chains will be quick to follow.


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  • Posted by $ 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes! Unions are the primary driver for minimum wages, even though they aren't worth half of what they demand.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    People like us will always be employed, but that is not true for those who lose their jobs because of governmental greed and stupidity.
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  • Posted by jetmec 8 years ago
    Yes they need to keep the disgusting amount of profit the same or more!
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  • Posted by term2 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Me too. I used to make medical devices until the fda became too intrusive. I sold it to a big company and started an unregulated off road lighting operation to keep busy
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    There comes a point (which we reached) where there is no way to make a decent living and the work is no more fun. In our case, we took a break, closed it up and went into a new and entirely different venture.
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, and you can bet that the prices on that will rise, as it becomes more popular.

    "You can't win a game where your opponent sets the rules", or something like that...
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  • Posted by term2 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    It seems sometimes that no one really cares about my business except me, and I need to stick up for myself and my business. The customers want a great product at the cheapest prices, the suppliers want as much as they can get for their products, the employees want as much money as they can get, and the government wants whatever is left. They all figure that somehow I will make sure the business runs regardless of what I make.

    I have a surprise for them.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Fortunately there are many choices of food out there. I dont go to the "authentic" mexican restaurants, because I agree with you. I prefer the higher end gringo-mexican restaurants or cooking it myself. When I cook myself, I know whats going into it too !!
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  • Posted by Mamaemma 8 years ago
    The real problem is what goes on upstream. For example, I will hire a person with a high school degree as a dental assistant and train her myself. With a minimum wage of $15, people in that job will expect much higher wages than my practice income will allow. When minimum wage goes up, people's expectations of wage levels rise as well. So fast food joints aren't the only businesses affected.
    Also, I have read that many union job wages are tied to minimum wage, as in 3 times, etc
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  • Posted by marc 8 years ago
    “As minimum-wage hikes become mandatory, Wendy’s looks to expand self-service kiosks.”
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2...

    CONGRATULATIONS, OBAMA!

    Now you can launch your jihad against the “greedy capitalist corporations” AND CONVENIENTLY FORGET THAT THIS IS ALL YOUR OWN DAMNED FAULT!

    The poor fools who thought the $15 per hour wage was going to mean the good times will roll forgot something: When it gets too expensive to hire and retain people, businesses will go to automation!

    This will be a huge pain for me, because I flatly refuse to use those self-checkout lanes at Walmart—they are a real pain in the a$$ as far as I am concerned, and I JUST WON’T USE THE DAMNED THINGS!

    But when ALL of the clerks have been laid off and the only people left are a few store dicks to watch the entrance and exist doors to make sure nobody’s shoplifting, and the store manager and one or two assistants to do the bean-counting, THEN I GUESS I AM WELL AND TRULY $H*T OUT OF LUCK! What am I going to do when the automated self-checkout gizmo screws it up? Wait until a bean-counter can come down from the offices and try to fix it? Like, about an hour or two later?

    And what about the poor schmucks who got laid off and can’t get another job? Will everybody be on welfare then? Seems like what those bastards want—SO WE’LL ALL BE UTTERLY DEPENDENT ON THOSE STINKING POLITICAL HACKS!

    Thanks a lot, Obama!
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    That's exactly what I'd be doing were I still in business. There is a bottom line that cannot be gone below. If it does, there's no point in being in business.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Mexican food is not a favorite. The very smell of most Mexican restaurants sends me straight out the door. Not certain of what it is that is most off-putting, but corn tortillas, cilantro, rancid oils are likely candidates. Just my preference, not a commentary on others ;^)
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  • Posted by mspalding 8 years ago
    Don't worry. As the Fed keeps inflating the money supply, the value of the $15 will drop until it makes sense to hire trainees at $15/hr.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    All jobs not worth the $15 per hour cost will simply disappear, and quickly. And they look to business to "create jobs". Creating a job is the LAST thing I would want to do. Eliminating the jobs through better product and service design is first, then automation, then outsourcing to china or some cheaper place, and only THEN hire a human.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    The government people just want power and re-election. Pandering to voters is what counts, whether its "black votes matter", or "young votes matter", or "white votes matter".

    The statists leave it to the producers to figure out how to pay the $15 per hour.

    I can tell you that what I am doing in our small manufacturing company (not into fast food) is to get more into automation and/or transferring labor to china. Our labor costs will stay the same one way or the other. We will let 2 of our 5 workers go the day that 10-289 rule comes into play.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    People (including me) want variety and dont want to have to plan purchases and cooling. The is the NOW culture which I think drives the growth in eating out.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Eating at home is a lot more healthy. You know whats in it totally. Its also a matter of careful planning to save time and money. If its only for two people, its difficult to not waste food. Much easier for a family of 4 or more.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Between the screamers (uncontrolled young children) and the inefficient clerks taking orders, its NOT as attractive as it once was.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Between the screamers (uncontrolled young children) and the inefficient clerks taking orders, its NOT as attractive as it once was.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Healthy food is available at some fast food restaurants now. Automation can keep the costs down and should be implemented NOW. Check out Pollo Loco's double chicken avocado/fajita salad. Its my current favorite anti diabetic lunch.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years ago
    I welcome the kiosks. I am tired of the current crop of useless clerks who cant even concentrate on me long enough to translate my verbal messages to their computer system and get my order right !! I dont really want to interact with humans at fast food or sit down restaurants anymore. Paying them $15 an hour would disgust me so much I wouldnt patronize them anymore.
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 8 years ago
    Already happened. Gone are the low paying starter positions one used to get, so you could "learn the business" and work your way up. Currently I cannot afford to hire people as trainees - which means when the workforce that has training dries up, there will be no one to replace them. Stockboys(and girls), Shop rats, Copy girls (and boys) at newspapers - we're already seeing the demise of news as a job avenue because no one has the talent or skill to become copywriters, reporters, or editors.

    We're "increased-minimum-waging" ourselves out of existence, and handing our propriety to foreign countries that don't have such stupid, elitist entitlement laws. $15 an hour? Good luck with that - you should be making that already, having gone beyond a "minimum wage" job years ago.
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