To vote or not to vote. Oh my!

Posted by ycandrea 8 years ago to Politics
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My first choice is Gary Johnson, but he does not have a chance of winning. My second and third choices, (Rand Paul & Ben Carson), are out of the race. I am left with Ted Cruz or Donald Trump. Cruz is probably the better of the two as far as being a more "Constitutional" candidate, but I just do not think he will be the winner. Donald Trump scares me about his world trade positions and his immature temper. He may land us right into another major war. So, it might be better to vote my conscience instead of for the only candidate who can win. Or maybe sit this one out. What you going to do?


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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Whoops ..cannot imagine going many places north of the border without my carry permit and weapon. When I come south they stay in a safety deposit box. Once I hit fifty miles south of the frontier there is not need. unless I go looking for toruble. one million US south of the border and the murder rate is 1.3 per hundred thousand. the average for the US is closer to four percent and Houston is up to twelve per hundred thousand

    Cheers!

    i'm going fishing
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    You aren't looking very hard. I already live freer and safer south of the border. I can't imagine going many places with my carry permit and weapon., When IO come south they stay in a safety deposit box. Once you get fifty or so miles south of the border and away from the problem caused by the drug habit of the USA life is quite pleasant absent a few of the major tourist traps. Food, medicine and lodging are chepaer enough to make up for the thirty percent loss in buying power the USA handed me with their phony government caused bankruptcy disguised as a recession and you suckers are going to vote for the same thing.,

    You deserve what you ask for.

    If you haven't seen a better place you haven't looked.
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I know where debate on this will lead, but I just have to try...

    The very LAST thing John Galt wanted was to lead anyone...the exact opposite of The Donald. Remember, Galt was given this opportunity and flatly refused...I don't know how anyone who's read Atlas Shrugged could ever think differently.

    That's about as good as argument as I can make on the subject.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Fiscal responsibility has been destroyed. when interest rates( normalize) move to the historical mean our interest on the national debt will swell to
    close to 1/3 of Fed govt revenue of $3.3 trillion.

    So Last year, 24 percent of the budget, or $888 billion, paid for Social Security, which provided monthly retirement benefits averaging $1,342 to 40 million retired workers in December 2015.

    Medicare, Medicaid, the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP), and Affordable Care Act (ACA) marketplace subsidies — together accounted for 25 percent of the budget in 2015, or $938 billion. Nearly two-thirds of this amount, or $546 billion, went to Medicare, which provides health coverage to around 55 million people who are over age 65 or have disabilities. The rest of this category funds Medicaid, CHIP, and ACA subsidy and exchange costs.
    Defense and international security assistance:
    Another 16 percent of the budget, or $602 billion, paid for defense and security-related international activities.

    Oops the money is spent, nothing left for:

    Veterans benefits

    Safety net programs:
    This category includes all programs in the income security function (600) except those that fall in the following two subfunctions: federal employees’ retirement and disability (602) and general retirement and disability insurance (601). The latter contains the Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation and also covers programs that provide pension and disability benefits to certain small groups of private-sector workers.
    Remaining program areas:
    This category includes all federal expenditures not included in one of the five categories defined above. The subcomponents of this category that are displayed in the graph are defined as follows:
    •Benefits for federal retirees: Federal employee retirement and disability subfunction (602, which is part of the income security function).
    •Transportation: This subcategory consists of the entire transportation function (400).
    •Education: The education subcategory combines three subfunctions of the education, training, employment, and social services function: elementary, secondary, and vocational education; higher education; and research and general educational aids (subfunctions 501, 502, and 503 respectively).
    •Science and medical research: This subcategory consists of the general science, space, and technology function (250) and the health research and training subfunction (552).
    •Non-security international: This subcategory consists of the international affairs function (150) except for international security assistance, which is included with defense, above.
    •All other: This subcategory consists of all other federal expenditures
    We are in for tough times ahead period!
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    No I am fine just dealing with your side issue but I am happy to see this one has some useful information and beef to it. Each state is different. Oregon by far the worst for voter fraud opportunities ...so they closed another door with that advanced registration to make a write in valid? Slimey bunch that's for sure.

    As for Rules Commitee one comment is they would raise a fire storm..big deal . GOP will do what they are told to do and look out after their own best interests. If they don't want Trump they have the means to do it using the winner take all disallowed rule which may be why it was put in for this year. It is a valid point.
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  • Posted by jabuttrick 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    You may have lost track of the subject of this thread. Olduglycarl is thinking of casting a write in vote for President in the general election in November. Unfortunately for him, such write in votes are often not counted under state law unless the candidate has filed to be a write in candidate before the election. This is usually not an onerous process but it does take an affirmative act by the candidate. The sources are the respective state election statutes. Check out your state statute to see if it applies where you live.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 8 years ago
    I've been sitting it out for several elections, now. It feels great. I am not convinced that the votes are actually counted, for starters.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    My and where are your sources. It's about stealing votes without due process not an entire ballot just the 'winner take all numbers.' duuuhhhh????
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  • Posted by Dobrien 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    "Close the doors" With the national debt The cows have left the barn long ago maybe at $7 trillion now $ 19 trillion.
    With interest rates at historical low levels our annual interest expense is $230 billion which is 6% of the budget , at historical rates annual expense soars to almost a trillion or 24% of budget! That is interest only.
    In the last 20 years fed spending has grown 63% faster than inflation. NOTA will be of any help, the big spenders should all go to debtors prison and they can piss where ever they want hopefully on the traitors.
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  • Posted by KnowledgeisaBurden 8 years ago
    Not to vote IS a vote for our destruction, do not take that memory to your grave or in the minds of the children left from our ignorance and apathey
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  • Posted by DeanStriker 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I believe we can be sure the Rulership will stand very much in the way. After all, tis We who are forced to buy Them the big guns which will be employed to prevent resistance.. When They finally concede that they can't recover, they'll steal away into the night. Wonder if they'll even bother to close the doors!
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  • Posted by KnowledgeisaBurden 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Cruz was controlled by the CFR, his wife was a member, she worked hard on the TPP which destroys companies and jobs in USA, HE was a dual citizen until may 2014, gave speeches a CFR, lied about so many issues would stall anyone who supports this shill' Flawed and comprimised by his dual citizenship alone... Trump will clear this up making barry a lie and giving legal status to reverse all of barrys crimes....put it together folks'
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  • Posted by KnowledgeisaBurden 8 years ago
    Cruz, rubio and jingle' were NEVER constitutionally
    legal to run, get that through the thick heads, think it through... barry was not legal clearly obvious for those who study law, to put one of those three in would solidify barrys lawless orders, also would be in a compromising position to carry the lie. Trump will clear this up, when clairified ALL barrys lawless orders will be VOID... get that? reverse all that communist garbage. this is why trump is attacked by gop, THEY ARE IN ON IT'
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  • Posted by jabuttrick 8 years ago in reply to this comment.
    It is rare for the entire ballot to be rejected because of an improper write in vote for one office in a general election. Such an action would be subject to a constitutional challenge. However, the improper write in vote would not be tabulated in most states.
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