Thanks for posting. Information is the key to any battle (Thanks G.I.Joe !)

Or they could just do the sensible thing and allow the teachers to pack heat. It's already been proven that the best deterrent to gun crime is the arming of the potential targets because would-be criminals are cowards.

Actually, the less time the kid spends in the government school, the better. He will be subjected to less stupidly and indoctrination. If there's anyone today who still doesn't recognize the danger and destruction of the person that a government school does, he deserves the outcome.

This is a legal doctrine that started as English Common law. It has been part of our education system for over a hundred years. Tinker v. Ohio (US SUP CT - 1969) weakened it but this is a legal doctrine throughout all states. The recent "Bong Hits for Jesus" case re-established some of that authority back to schools. Schools literally have authority over your child from the time they exit the door until they reach home. I didn't make this up...I just happen to be a teacher and know this is what is used. That is why corporal punishment is still legal in 23 states.
Even you picking them up is dubious because you could technically stop along the way home so your kid could finish some business with another kid. In that instance schools have suspension authority.
Look up "In Loco Parentis" and read the basic Wikipedia page. It means "In Place of a Parent." Do more research if you like.
Latin, in the place of a parent.] The legal doctrine under which an individual assumes parental rights, duties, and obligations without going through the formalities of legal Adoption.
By far the most common usage of in loco parentis relates to teachers and students. For hundreds of years, the English common-law concept shaped the rights and responsibilities of public school teachers: until the late nineteenth century, their legal authority over students was as broad as that of parents. Changes in U.S. education, concurrent with a broader reading by courts of the rights of students, began bringing the concept into disrepute by the 1960s. Cultural changes, however, brought a resurgence of the doctrine in the twenty-first century.
I pulled the above from the following link:
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionar...
It has many legal decisions listed. State and Federal.

The ONLY thing I can add to that bit of prose is that I carry all the weapons I am allowed to carry by law, every day as many places as possible - and to those liberal gun haters who hate the weapon on my hip and ankle, they most likly have a problem with the other weapon my drill Sargent instructed us about at bedtime and day break........

Is this a state case or a federal level decision? I, for one, never ceded authority or responsibility for my children as I drove them to school at 7:00am or punched a clock when I picked them up at 3;30pm.

The student learned a lesson more important than what he would have learned on the day of school that he missed. Perhaps we should extend a special invitation to the Gulch for this student.

And the band played on.

This kind of irrational behavior is to be expected from government run schools (and now -sadly- from privately run schools via state intimidation.)

No need to ban males from schools.

Through Political Correctness, Radical Feminism, casting all males as incipient rapists, and even toying with the language to require in written papers feminine pronouns as indefinite pronouns: the message is very clear and a lot of males have said, "Why bother?"

Funny. That's what crossed my mind when I wrote that. Tattle tales getting rewarded with bread for snitching. Hence, people scare me.

Here are the words to a song I heard years ago (by WJ Bethencourt).

Jan

As I roved out to Western Lands to take the Western Air
I went into a Revel Hall and I saw a Twelfth Night there
but I was halted at the gate by a Privy Consellor

who told me I would have to check my Weapons at the door

As I, in my astonishment, stood hung on tenter-pegs
a Knight came in whose Prouess hung down between his legs
the Doorman grabbed a greatsword and he struck the Knight full sore
and gave him a reciept; he left his weapon at the door!

a Bard was next whose goodly Voice has entertained us all
but he, too, was prevented from entering the Hall
and told he could not carry deadly weapons on the floor
he left his Voice and Harp among the weapons at the door

a Master entered graciously, a man we all know well
who holds a 3rd Dan Black Belt, tho this he'd never tell
the Master struggled valiantly, the Master cursed and swore
but he left his hands, and feet, as weapons at the door

the company was jovial, altho a bit dismayed
for lack of proper cutlery, down to the smallest blade
for even teeth and fingernails, each can be used in War
were cut, and pulled, and left behind, as weapons at the door!

And has their King not loyal Knights that He must be afraid
of brawling in his Hall and of Assassin's bloody blade?
the Rights of Men to carry Arms at least WE'VE not foreswore
and a POX on them that made the Rule of Weapons at the Door!

Or a cane...!

Jan

That is a great idea. Paintball is a lot of fun, and teaches tactics as well (though, like fencing, you would need to institute rules to bias against getting killed the first time you faced real fire because you are accustomed to faux-dieing). The paintball gun I used was not sterling in its accuracy; I hope there are better ones that actually aim in something better than 'the general direction'...still, it teaches 'point and fire'.

Jan

It is exactly what the Gestapo relied on in WW2 Germany... they had nowhere near the forces they needed to police and control the German Citizenry, so they instituted a propoganda policy of keeping up the fear level of imminent terrorists lurking on every block in every burg, and spread the work - "If you see something, say something". They had Citizen against Citizen, and they got to control the country with relatively few personnel...

Oh wait. I've heard that same modus operandi somewhere else... hmmm...

Sadly, schools are so afraid of lawsuits that they've abdicated good judgement in favor of 'zero-tolerance' policies meant to relieve them of liability. That's why this kinda thing is so common.

Is not the intent of the law to define whether a BB Gun is a weapon or not. In most states it is not. The law does not preclude someone threatening with any look-alike, like holding up a 7-11 for example. Was he holding up a 7-11 or pointing it at anyone?

Perhaps they need a law that states, "Anything that looks like a gun (including pop tarts) shall not be in any vehicle parked down the street within 20 miles of any school". It could be like a "No Drug Zone". What about a sling-shot? Aghhh......

Overkill...he did NOTHING wrong.. Some nosy tattle tale is to blame for starting this and I'd want to talk to them. And the officials ran away with it. People scare me.