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Saturated Fats Do NOT Lead To Heart Disease

Posted by khalling 9 years, 12 months ago to Science
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In fact the original study that proposed such has lead to a campaign of trans fat intake and higher carb intake directly linked to Type II Diabetes and heart disease. Heart Disease was not an epidemic prior to the 50s in the US. P&G who manufactured Crisco, was the major donor and mind behind the formation of The American


Heart Assn. To this day TAHA
SOURCE URL: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303678404579533760760481486?mod=WSJ_hppMIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsSecond&mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702303678404579533760760481486.html%3Fmod%3DWSJ_hppMIDDLENex


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  • Posted by hattrup 9 years, 12 months ago
    The is a very strong correlation between the USDA food pyramid adoption and promotion in the US since the '70's and the increase in obesity and diabetes type 2.

    There is a larger % of the population, probably over 30%, that actually do not handle carbohydrates well.

    Although many low-carb (and therefore high-fat) nutrition / diet studies have been done - many results / papers are not quoted often in the med journals. And many of the results from high carb / low fat studies are miss-quoted or selectively
    (miss)- interpreted to make the "researchers" point.

    Of course there has been little fed funding for studies that are not orientated toward the USDA pyramid (which was specific originally by politicians, their aides, and lobbiests - with only
    grudging support, at best, by the weak USDA head at the time).

    The benefits of a low-carb diet, for many, has been known since the mid-1800's - and from 1920 on wrt fantastic results on kids with epilepsy (John's Hopkins has a whole pediatric branch dedicated to ketonic (low carb) diet studies and care).

    For a documented scientific review of this - check out
    The Art and Science of Low Carbohydrate Living: An expert guide to making ....
    by Phinney and Volek

    note: Individual human biology varies alot in the
    specifics (100,000 + different protein type variations, etc.) - so many can take in a lot of carbs. However a huge number really can't - and there is almost no common nutritional info taught on this.

    This new book coming out noted by khalling will hopefully help with that. There is continued huge resistance to the notion that natural fats are your friend, and the normal human diet for over a million years. Grains, starches, sugars (carbs) only enter our diet in a big way when farming started 6,000 years ago - and much of our variations are still not well adapted to it.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 12 months ago
    Being a senior geezer, my body is falling apart in increments. However, it's good to know that chili dogs, pizza and rib-eye steaks are back on the menu.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 9 years, 12 months ago
    The famous "food pyramid" that pushed carbohydrates was derived from a study of Olympic athletes. These are people who burn more calories just breathing than the rest of us with a mild exercise regimen. For those who balk at animal fat, saturated vegetable/fruit fats, such as avocado, coconut are filling and healthy. Coconut oil (which solidifies just below room temperature) is a good substitute for butter, for those who are dairy-intolerant.

    It's always the old adage, "follow the money." The sugar industry (a really evil bunch, whose crimes have been successfully kept out of the public eye) can be depended upon to launch a vicious campaign against the latest sugar substitute, e.g.
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  • Posted by straightlinelogic 9 years, 12 months ago
    I have this weird idea that if I engage in really strenuous exercise six times a week for seventy minutes and eat a mixed diet of red meat, white meat, some fruits, some vegetables, some ice cream once in a while and an occasional beer that I'll be healthy. Mostly I listen to my body, which although it sounds strange, usually tells me what to eat. So far it has worked. I am thin, have low blood pressure, and I catch a cold about once every two years. If I live another thirty years (I'm 55) my radical experiment will have received some empirical support. If I die next week, then I am doing something wrong.
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    • Posted by Walt 9 years, 12 months ago
      74 years old. Eat red meat at least 4 times a week. Potato chips whenever I feel like it, 1 bag of Halls menthols a week (I love them), a dozen fried eggs a week, 2 large cups of coffee every morning with lots of cream, 1 large Haagan-Daz chocolate every 5 days, 35 pounds over weight (which most don't believe), Pepperoni Pizza at least every 2 weeks with lot's of hot peppers, 1 gallon of Tang instant ice tea every day. I could go on and on, but I feel great, most people think I'm in my late 50s to early 60s. Just had complete blood and urine check up as well as blood pressure. Blood Pressure 120/70: no sign of diabetes, cholesterol 149 (although bad was a titch high) triglycerides right on the money. So, I am here to tell you, IT'S IN THE GENES, I was fortunate enough to inherit excellent genes and will live well until the Lord takes me home. PS also smoke 2 cigars a day. Maybe, straightinelogic I should receive some empirical support. Just sayin'
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      • Posted by NealS 9 years, 12 months ago
        Walt, Love you story !!! I’m just 72 with about the same specs as yours. My reply to the new and greatest discovery on earth about Saturated Fats is:
        What? I’ve been denying myself of the great taste of saturated fats all this time. Was this a government study? Wasn’t it the government that warned me about milk, butter, salt, sugar, then fake sugar, eggs, now wheat and flour, etc. in the past? The diet pendulum swings at a higher frequency than politics.
        In reality since I was just a youngster I’ve eaten just about anything I ever wanted, and I enjoyed a Snickers Bar almost every day (Costco sold them in nice boxes of 48 bars). I never changed my eating habits until about age 50 when I stopped drinking whole milk and went to 2%, yuk. Switched about age 55 to 1%, and at age 60 I went from 1% to Non-Fat, hated it but got used to it quickly. Even 1% now tastes like cream. Then at about age 60 I started to put on a little weight probably because I started listening to the nonsense studies a little more than I used to. What good did it do me? None, Not A, Nothing. Now, in my 70’s I’ve decided to eat what I please, when I please, and however much I please (last night Lobster for an appetizer and Lasagna for dinner).
        The other day (yesterday actually) at the grocery store when my wife wasn’t looking I snuck into the cart a giant Hershey’s Bar with Almonds, and a Snickers Bar. I intend to enjoy both of them. When I reach age 80 I intend to do even more whatever I want, after all who wants to live forever anyway? Again, that’s just my opinion, I could be wrong. But also, that’s my story and I’m stickin’ to it. And I confess, I lied about the giant Hershey’s Bar, I really got three of them because they were three for four dollars. And for my final confession, two of the giant Hershey’s Bars are already gone and the wrappers buried in the trash.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 11 months ago
    I knew this to be true a long time ago, but it is nice to see the myth being taken down. This story reminds me of a quote by senior golfer Chi Chi Rodriguez, senior golfer, who claims he eats steak every day: "They say red meat is bad for you, but I never saw a sick-looking tiger."
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  • Posted by KYFHO 9 years, 12 months ago
    My dad had to give up all sorts of foods to straighten out his system, but then lived into his '90's, and was healthy and happy. My mother, allergic to everything, dropped dead, literally, in her 60's, unhealthy her whole life long. So, genetically I have at least 2 strikes against me, and ya know what? I don't give a do-diddly damn. I eat what I like, when I like, exercise as I can and don't let food be an aggravation in my life. I am 62 and recently deemed healthy by the first doctor I had seen in over 5 years. My true worries come out of DC and my state and local seats of power. I refuse to let food be another concern. And, I am glad to see some common sense maybe seeing the light of day over fats, saturated and otherwise.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 12 months ago
    I hate doing posts from my Kindle! aarrrgghh!
    To this day AHA pushes the consumption of whole grains and sugars over and discourages the consumption of red meats, eggs, and butter. Transfats have been directly linked heart disease however. The same groups that pressured food manufacturers and restaurants to switch to transfats in the 90 s now are pushing for their removal. Your busybody orgs and govt hard at work pushing more psuedo science.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 12 months ago
    So the WSJ publishes exactly what the "crazy" nutritionists have been saying for 2 decades. Maybe its time to also expose the fraud of the rest of the big pharma, AMA, health insurance system of destroying the health of Americans?
    Naw, that might effect advertising revenues.
    OTOH, if the owners went short first...
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 9 years, 12 months ago
    If mother's milk is Nature's perfect food for mammals and mammals stop ingesting this milk at an early age, why is it then healthy for humans to ingest cow's milk products after they have stopped ingesting their own mother's milk?
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    • Posted by $ jlc 9 years, 12 months ago
      This is an interesting 'corner case' on the rate of human evolution. In Paleolithic Scandinavia, the presence of the allele for lactase persistence was 0; in modern Scandinavia it is around 97%. In the last 5-8K years, this version of a gene has become almost exclusively dominant in that population (and 3 or 4 others in different events around the world). The persistence of the lactase gene correlates well with the domestication of cattle (and camels?) by the local populations.

      So, yes, this is a very recent change in human physiology; one which allowed us to become 'mampires' and live off liquids produced by living animals who did not have to be killed in order to sustain us. Because of this, the ability to digest lactose is a good candidate for allergies due to side effects that have not been eliminated from our genome.

      Another 'candidate for early elimination' in allergy testing is gluten. This is for similar reasons: the amount of gluten in human (and dog) diets was small until the Neolithic agricultural revolution.

      'Mampires'. MWA HAHAha hahahah!

      Jan
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    • Posted by 9 years, 12 months ago
      JIR, some can't take it. But we have been making milk products for thousands of years and getting nourishment from it. The article is about what it does not lead to and that is we have no correlation to heart disease by ingesting butter over other types of oils. I also disagree with the way your question is set up. Cows do not cannibalize either. But we can benefit from eating protein produced by cows.
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      • Posted by j_IR1776wg 9 years, 12 months ago
        I am a meat eater. Grass fed when I can afford it. However, on the milk not everyone agrees with you.
        http://www.waoy.org/9.html
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        • Posted by 9 years, 12 months ago
          Although these are doctor's experiences, I did not see actual scientific study findings (regarding heart disease).
          This from the NIH:
          http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21068...

          Although there have been some inverse correlations, the findings are not statistically significant and some studies refute other studies' findings.

          I don't really know overall, JIR. I do know that doctors looking at gastro intestinal issues or allergies drop milk products out of the diet first.
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          • Posted by j_IR1776wg 9 years, 12 months ago
            I don't know either k. A long time ago on the Atkin's diet my total Cholesterol was 287.In the last year on the Paleo diet it dropped to 183 and I'm not sure that this a good thing in terms of my CV health. I guess Aristotle's "Everything in moderation" is the best advice.
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  • Posted by Notperfect 9 years, 11 months ago
    So my great grandparents sticking to their whole milk, real butter, cream skimmed off the top of that whole milk and fresh homemade cheese from whole milk and using lard in the cooking of their meals had nothing to do with them living to 96 and 95 years of age? Grandpa and Grandma shame on you for believing in truth!
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