Has anyone noticed that we just went to war with Syria?

Posted by Rocky_Road 10 years, 11 months ago to Politics

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And that we are backing the rebels who just pledged loyalty to al-Qaeda?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world...

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Posted by j_IR1776wg 10 years, 11 months ago

Am I the only old guy who remembers that this was the exact same path that Lyndon Johnson used to get us involved in Vietnam? First some
advisers, then an incident such as a missile bringing down one of our F-16s, then all out war.

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  Posted by Rocky_Road 10 years, 11 months ago
  
  No, I mentioned it 3 days ago. The incident was the false flag attack on our Navy ships in the Tonkin Gulf.
  
  If we have already set up a 'no fly' zone (something I have read we are doing), then Obama has broken the War Powers Act, unless he doesn't consider our Air Force pilots as 'armed troops'.
  
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    Posted by j_IR1776wg 10 years, 11 months ago
    
    I remember the Tonkin Gulf lie. I was referring to the F-16s we've just put into Jordan. The WH said they will stay there after the military exercises are over.
    
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      Posted by Rocky_Road 10 years, 11 months ago
      
      I see it now.
      
      Any thoughts on our pilots in harm's way, and the War Powers Act?
      
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        Posted by j_IR1776wg 10 years, 11 months ago
        
        Our pilots are cannon fodder to this government.
        Obama does not want to follow the law, he wants to be the law!
        
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        Posted by Rocky_Road 10 years, 11 months ago
        
        What is obscene is that we are now supplying the rebels with surface to air weapons. It is quite possible that one of our boys will be downed by our own weapons.
        
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        Posted by j_IR1776wg 10 years, 11 months ago
        
        Yup. It sucks to feel helpless to stop this obscenity.
        
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        Posted by Susanne 10 years, 10 months ago
        
        Your tax dollars at work...
        
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        Posted by j_IR1776wg 10 years, 10 months ago
        
        Worse. It's funded by the counterfeit that
        Bernanke is creating out of thin air!
        
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  Posted by khalling 10 years, 11 months ago
  
  why would we arm the same people who cheered the dead on 9/11? those rebels think we're the biggest suckers ever
  
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    Posted by Abaco 10 years, 10 months ago
    
    We are.
    
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    Posted by Rocky_Road 10 years, 11 months ago
    
    They did a lot more than cheer and pass out candy...Sunni Muslims piloted the planes into the Twin Towers.
    
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    Posted by j_IR1776wg 10 years, 11 months ago
    
    This administration is stuffed full of the the worst America haters in our history. That we are arming these people is further proof that Obama is intent on destroying our military to make it easier for him to become the beloved leader he always wanted to be..
    
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  Posted by rockymountainpirate 10 years, 11 months ago
  
  I remember. Last Saturday we had a gig for a big party. As part of a sound check/warmup song my brother started playing Eve of Destruction https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsjmuvCN....
  
  I said it's time to dust off the old protest songs and the rest of the band agreed. We've got a break for a couple of weeks so I'll be assembling. Suggestions for your favorites appreciated.
  
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    Posted by j_IR1776wg 10 years, 11 months ago
    
    Blowing in the wind
    He aint heavy, He's my brother
    People got to be free
    Where have all the flowers gone?
    
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Posted by Rocky_Road 10 years, 11 months ago

I watched the movie "Wag the Dog" last night, and found it surrealistically real given the headlines we are seeing about the need to go to war in Syria.

The movie is brilliant: all about a President getting hammered in the polls, and deciding to declare a bogus war to change the subject line.

Satire, of course, but all good humor is bedded in some truth....

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  Posted by Susanne 10 years, 10 months ago
  
  I'm not too sure it's satire any more... more like SOP... Every time you hear some long and drawn out story over some public intrest news story, the question is "what the hell are they covering up now?"
  
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    Posted by khalling 10 years, 10 months ago
    
    isn't the main character based on Dick Morris? boy did he do a 180.
    
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Posted by gwcalvert 10 years, 11 months ago

And from the Wall Street Journal:

"Russia Hits Back at U.S> Over Syria" - http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424...

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  Posted by erudeen 10 years, 11 months ago
  
  Russia and China have been warning us to not get involved...
  
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  Posted by Susanne 10 years, 10 months ago
  
  It's starting to get spooky, when you hear Putin chastize the US, and find yourself nodding just a bit. And when we cozy up to China, which was deeply involved behind the scenes of numerous conflicts in the far east against us...
  
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Posted by Mimi 10 years, 11 months ago

What a choice! Al-Qaeda or Hezbollah? This is a dogfight I want no part of. Both teams suck.

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Posted by rockymountainpirate 10 years, 11 months ago

Arming the mujaheddin by any other name ends in the same bad place for us. We need to stay out of other countries civil wars, we've got our own going on here with the subverting of the Constitution so sharia can replace it. Or will the communist win?

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Posted by erudeen 10 years, 11 months ago

Was there an official declaration issued from congress? Oh wait, do we still need to do that?

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  Posted by Rocky_Road 10 years, 11 months ago
  
  This is a 'sticky' one, since the War Powers Act was supposed to prevent any armed conflicts without Congressional approval. Obama gets away with arming the rebels, and thus taking a side in the conflict, by claiming that no soldiers are being sent to fight. The Nam war began with aid in the form of weapons AND 'military advisers'. We'll will see what happens next....
  
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    Posted by wynsday 10 years, 10 months ago
    
    Good point with the advisors.
    
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Posted by wynsday 10 years, 10 months ago

Did anyone pay much attention to the fact we backed Pol Pot in the just-before-things-went-south era,...er... months? We also backed Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and...wait, those are countries, full of factions of which we *possibly* back opposing/conflicting sides. So, the question is: is our government that smart, that stupid, or that fractioned? Or is it the concept that if you back both sides eventually you can claim you backed the winning side?

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  Posted by rockymountainpirate 10 years, 10 months ago
  
  Since the U.S. is the largest Arms Dealer in the world, the business model is to sell guns to both sides.
  
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    Posted by wynsday 10 years, 10 months ago
    
    There is that as well. I think the whole thing is so convoluted and complex its crazy. I believe people without an understanding of some very important realities, i.e. motivations of those we deal with, have been at the helm
    
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      Posted by wynsday 10 years, 10 months ago
      
      anyway, there is a lot going on and I think its gotten a bit out of control. Just a random thought, do you think it better to live in your prefered government system or preferered economic system?
      
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        Posted by khalling 10 years, 10 months ago
        
        wyn, Consider making this a post. If you do, I'll make my comment again. I think it's an interesting topic for discussion.
        If we truly lived up to the spirit of the Constitution, then we would also have the right economic system. For other countries, historically, those who have pursued economic freedom, have been more likely to end up with civil freedoms than vice versa.
        
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