How do you feel about gun control?

Posted by stargeezer 10 years, 1 month ago to Government
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I'm asking how you feel about the issue. There's no need for this to get argumentative since we aren't likely to change each others mind. Just tell us how you feel and why.


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  • Posted by $ 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    That school is just 50 miles from my front door. Living in a area where gun owners outnumber non-gun owners 99 to 1, we often forget the rest live differently.

    On Saturday morning it's not unusual to look out the front window of our home and see folks loading rifle and pistol cases in their minivans along with picnic lunches for a day at the range. Then you find out that this is going on in our back yard.

    I've called the school, been transferred from phone to phone as they look for somebody to take authority of this abomination. When I was finally transferred to the principal I was told that they did not plan to make a change this year since it was so late, but they hoped to get things "fixed" by next fall.

    When I asked if they discovered a error that stated that Joseph Stalin was the first president of the United States, would they make an immediate change or just wait until next year to fix the problem? I was told that they didn't see it as a big problem. My answer was just "I see". What else could I add.

    What a bunch of losers - losers who are teaching our kids wrongly.

    Thanks for bringing this up.

    Larry
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  • Posted by $ 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Ok Lynda. thanks for your input. I respect your decision to avoid firearms if you feel you don't need or want one. They are after all, inanimate objects that do nothing on their own. I truly do hope you never need a weapon and find yourself without one, or the ability to use one if you need to.

    I have taught many people to shoot, people who are not "gun people" but who don't want to live in a world where guns exist, but not understand how they work. It is a fair assumption on my part that some of these folks do not own a gun, but I think it's fair to say that they no longer fear them. Knowledge is power.

    Should you one day wish to learn the basics about guns, I can assure you that there are many certified firearms instructors like me, who would be willing to help you. Some do it for free and some do it as a business, but either way these folks are patient and very used to helping folks overcome their fear. Let me know if you ever would like to meet one.
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  • Posted by $ winterwind 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    If you shoot pre-fragmented ammo [Glasers], you don't have to worry quite as much. It does not ricochet nor does it penetrate dry wall. Nice one-shot-stop numbers, too.
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  • Posted by $ winterwind 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    oh, yeaaaaaah. We haven't had one here in a few years, but it was FINE. Everybody loaded up whatever was fun to shoot, and rest of up loaded up all the cash we could get our hands on, and we met at a really, really, big empty field. except for the 2 or 3 junker cars loaded with propane tanks. And everybody made whatever deal could be made. I remember a couple of Army artillery guys who came just to shoot the stuff they worked on - they'd never shot it. Their mouths dropped open when I paid for one of our friends [pretty, 20, female] to shoot a......sorry, I'm a pistol gal, so very few details except: crew served, 40mm, $40 per round. She loved it. They loved it that she loved it. now THERE was gun control.
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  • Posted by $ 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Depends on the state. In my state, a full auto of any kind is very, very illegal. In FL where we spend winters class 3's are fine with the tax stamp, which I think is $200, unless the state tacks on their cumshaw of some amount. One of our favorite outings is to attend machine gun shoots.
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  • Posted by Eyecu2 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    No argument. However it is not as simple as that to obtain a full auto weapon nor should there be a tax.
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  • Posted by Kulord 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Private citizens can own full automatic weapons. Every time a full auto weapon is traded a $300 dollar federal tax is imposed. At least that was how it worked last time I checked.
    The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. -Thomas Jefferson
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  • Posted by $ blarman 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    That is entirely possible. There are new weapons the military has which are the equivalent of non-lethal "Star Trek"-style phasers. They overload the target's neural system with low-level infrared radiation and incapacitate them. It is a close-proximity weapon a lot less scary than a taser, but far too expensive (for the time being) for the common joe.

    Before the projectile weapon goes the way of the dodo, however, there are four modern projectile weapon advancements that may be of interest to those who follow such.

    The first is a firearm which can shoot around corners. The barrel is mounted on a stock which can pivot up to 90 degrees and has a sight that follows so that someone can peer around a corner - and even shoot - without exposing themselves. The military are starting to train/equip soldiers for urban warfare using these.

    The second isn't as much a gun but the projectile - the military now has bullets that can be programmed on firing with a delayed fuse - similar to artillery or heavy HE shells designed as penetrators for bunkers/tanks, etc. These bullets are made so that the explode a certain time/distance AFTER making first contact. They are designed to defeat cover through penetration. They are quite expensive, however.

    The next is also a new type of projectile that is made to sense cover and explode just after passing a programmable point. Also meant to defeat enemies hiding behind cover, the bullet is programmed on firing with a delay so that it will go off a certain number of feet after the bullet passes cover.

    The last is a weapon system created for the common joe (if you can call a $10K price tag that) that auto-targets. It's billed as a hunting rifle that can make any hunter a pro. You sight your target in and the scope locks on, takes a few measurements like wind speed, angle, distance, etc., and then when you squeeze the trigger, it will compensate and wait for the muzzle to be projected along the correct path until it fires.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    You won't have to. If you've ever registered a weapon, purchased one with a background check, purchased anything weapons related with a credit card, ever taken a concealed carry course, ever gotten a hunting license, etc. they know (or have a very good suspicion) that you have a firearm. They will find you.
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  • Posted by exindigo 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    My point exactly. The whole goal of education is to acclimate the populace to government control. It has been a giant propaganda campaign waged against the citizens at their own volition.
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  • Posted by exindigo 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I think current gun control laws are totally unconstitutional. The government long ago figured out that it's better to pass unconstitutional laws and let the courts fight it out. If enough confusion can be created, government wins,
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    The only thing that gun laws do is limit the ability of law abiding citizens to have them. The criminals don't give a rip about the laws and will get the guns in any way possible.

    If "all" guns were banned, except for those in the military and law enforcement, then there would be a thriving business in black market guns. They would still be out there, and mostly only criminals would have them. You and I would be defenseless and totally dependent upon either a strong and omnipresent law enforcement group, or pay protection money to a "private enforcement group" called the mob or gang. Either way, we would be totally dependent upon others for our security.
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  • Posted by $ amiga 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Alas, I think they understand it perfectly - they just ignore it, along with the rest of the Constitution.
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  • Posted by $ amiga 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Agreed! That would have been my first response as well. Beware of those who argue from 'I feel' rather than 'I think' !
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 10 years, 1 month ago
    Personal responsibility and personal accountability are the only legitimate gun control rules anyone should stand for.
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  • Posted by KYFHO 10 years, 1 month ago
    I think the left attempting to nullify the 2nd amendment to suit their faulty logic and distorted facts is dangerous and despotic. Gun "free" zones are where most mass shootings occur. I said most. There is that cold dead fingers approach that will need to be used on me and mine. Teach respect and practice, practice, practice your accuracy skills. And, anyone who thinks all areas should be gun free zones, post that idea in your front window for all to see. I think the left does not like guns because they know they cannot be trust with them. Like fatty foods and big sodas. No self control.
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  • Posted by jsw225 10 years, 1 month ago
    Every single genocide that has taken place in the history of the modern world has happened only after gun control took place, and the resulting gun confiscation.

    Gun Control has something like 100,000,000 dead victims.
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