Bernie Sanders, One Of The Greediest People On Earth, Says Greed Isn't Good

Posted by $ nickursis 8 years, 4 months ago to Government
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Here you are: A short, sweet ode to Bernie, where the someone finally figures out Bernie is a huge hypocrite. He is indeed a "kettle".


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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No, I was looking for the dining room thing and got distracted on the slary charts, and the laundry lists of all the freebies. I would run for office now, and get in the feeding trough, but my self respect keeps getting in the way, and I can't lie long enough with a straight face to wheedle enough money for lies. Too bad.. what a feeding frenzy...
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Did you find my research on the subject yet? It's dismal. My objective was the menu prices in their dining rooms. I think they guard that closer than Obomba guards nuclear secrets. hillary could have learned something from the Senate Dining Room staff about security
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    This is almost in the "Humor" section:

    Members of Congress in both parties are viewed as incompetent and beneficiaries of special favors. That’s a bad combination,”

    Really? I would never have guessed.... Thanks Michael...
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 4 months ago
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2...

    No pricing but some clues.

    and some with advertising

    http://www.fool.com/investing/general...

    on the dark side
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11...
    nothing there but a bunch of links to other subjects

    NPR chimes in..

    http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpol...

    Still no answer just tantalizing clues

    http://dailysignal.com/2011/07/29/mem...

    For pay go up the list in the comments...I'm looking for the cost of perks and which are freebies.

    Written for the troops

    The listing for the Senate Dining Room (not the one open to the public or at the Vistors Center) listed breakfast, main, desserts and take out. None of the links worked beyond that brief introduction.

    What I'm left with is ....not much information besides free haircuts and beauty parlors, health club fees maybe waived, and rumors of the prices paid for meals by the Congressionals. The secret is being kept tighter than the invasion plans for the next raid on the publics pocketbook.

    So what is the price of steak or hamburger in the holy of holies inner sanctum? Is it billed to the office or the congressional directly?

    Good luck .....I'm going back to sleep.
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  • Posted by plusaf 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "What we have 'today' "?! You must be a youngster... I've watched the decay and fought it for nearly 50 years... :)
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hmm a lot of history there, especially from Germany in the 30's..makes you wonder about what is going on here..
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't know, she seemed to capture them pretty good in AS. I was having a fit driving, yelling at my CD that this is what we have today..
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Interesting...a conflict of culture indeed. Unfortunately, I am stuck in the old honesty is needed for good decisions models. Dishonesty just breeds a chain of events that never seem to end. Look at HillaryBeast, even though the sheeple seem to be able to deal with it. Maybe we are drifting towards a muslim culture.
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  • Posted by mia767ca 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    one of things that helped me deal with those types of people was discussions with Ayn Rand in the 1960s and Nat Branden from the 1960s to around 2000...they see it as necessary to succeed with their agenda...and as not being dishonorable...

    it helped with training middle-eastern pilot candidates while i was an instructor pilot in the Air Force...they had grown up in the islamic religion...dishonesty was the norm...it was considered the honorable way to advance in life...
    being deceptive wins elections for politicans in today's society...and they are greedy to win...
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  • Posted by plusaf 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    :) Of COURSE Politicians are NOT Greedy...
    Just ask them!
    Now, Believing their answer is another thing... :)
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  • Posted by plusaf 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Forget the money (except in Hillary's case...) Follow the Need To Control Others!
    The power to have Your Views Be The Views that guide policy "For the Good of Everyone."
    Rand would have blown an aneurysm if she'd ever met someone like Bernie. (or Hillary.)
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Actually, the whole list you just made was an indictiment of the system and Bernie in particular. Fat Cat wall street ripoffs aside, he is incredibly arrogant (as are they all) to bitch and moan about poor people, ripoffs and theifs, when he participates in a system that none of the crooks have ever done anything about. They should be ashamed. I retired after 20 years in 1996 and got 13K a year, it has now inched up to 17K and the medical thing was just another rip off on top. They are an insult to all the fine people who have served, and vets do not deserve this bunch of arrogant thief's.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 4 months ago
    His worth as listed in a study of the richest and poorest ten of each in Congress was $700,000 assume $200,000 was his fat cat wife's share. Where did the other half a million come from? Savings? Value of house and property

    Retirement is age 62 after five years in Congress at $72,000 a year

    Here's the plan at present Bernie is at the top level with 16 years Representative and 10 years Senate. 30 years at the end of this term.

    A member of Congress retiring with 30 years of service under the CSRS offset plan would get an initial annual benefit of $130,500. However, at age 62 or older, this amount would be reduced by the amount received from Social Security attributable to federal service.

    Regardless of which retirement plan they're covered by, members of Congress also have access to the Thrift Savings Plan, or TSP, which is like a 401(k) plan, except on steroids.

    All federal employees in the TSP get a 1 percent contribution from the agency employing them even if they don't contribute to the plan. This contribution is vested (meaning they can't be forfeited) after two years of service. Those who contribute to the TSP get a 5 percent match from their employing agency. Members of Congress covered under FERS get this 5 percent match. Those under CSRS do not get the match, but they can contribute up to the limit, which in 2013 is $17,500 ($23,000 for those 50 and older).

    The TSP is run efficiently. Expenses are offset by forfeitures of the 1 percent agency contributions if federal employees leave before they are vested as well as other forfeitures, and loan fees are applied to defray plan expenses. As a result, the TSP costs employees just 0.027 percent, or 27 cents per $1,000 invested. Meanwhile, for those Americans with access to a workplace retirement plan, expenses for a 401(k) plan range between 0.2 percent and 5 percent, according to BrightScope, depending on the size of the plan. Small plans get crushed by expenses.

    How does this fee advantage benefit those in the TSP plan? Assuming a 7 percent annualized return and, just to keep things simple, a $5,000 annual contribution over 30 years, below are the amounts accumulated by a TSP plan participant paying 0.027 percent a year versus a 401(k) plan participant paying 1 percent a year. Calculations do not include matching contributions.
    Fees of the government plan vs. private retirement plan
    Plan type Plan cost (in %) Account value after 30 years
    TSP 0.027 $470,016
    401(k) plan 1 $395,291

    The TSP plan participant ends up with a nest egg worth nearly 20 percent more than the 401(k) plan participant, thanks to the low fees. Imagine the disparity in savings if we considered more expensive 401(k) plans.

    That's all the more reason for congressional members to focus on winning the next election!

    Editor's note: The statistics in this article were gleaned from a Congressional Research Service report titled "Retirement Benefits for Members of Congress," Nov. 30, 2012, by Katelin P. Isaacs.

    Now for health no it isn't free but.....

    One of the most popular plans under FEHBP (the Blue Cross Blue Shield Standard plan) costs beneficiaries $430 a month for a family, and $185 a month for individual coverage. this iplan is the one that covers Congress. Congress was folded into Obamacare and the use of the regional pay out centers. I wonder which one is never behind on payouts.

    I'm assuming the extra $500,000 is value of house and property in both home state and in/near Washington DC and value of TSP Plan. No info on wife's status. As for medical they are still top tier for patient space at Walter Reed.

    Compare that to VA and military retirement with Tricare .. whoops those mandatory Obama care add ones from Medicare are scheduled to go up 50% this year. So much for Medical For Life. After all they were only cannon fodder.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, there are limits, which you have to hope come into play, but with the SCOTUS seemingly lost their minds and finding the most bizarre things legal, I do not know where the limits would be.
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I would really consider moving if Sanders gets in I think. He can do SOME things with executive orders, but without the congress, they could shut him down I think. Obama did Obamacare when he had both houses, but really hasnt done much other than that (except for the wars which were already in progress)
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, not so fast, remember, the thing to be concerned about is he does not need both houses, he just does what his Obaminess does, write Executive Orders...He could do a lot of damage alone with that. And we would continue in crisis mode, which we cannot afford. Even then, maybe it is time to shrug and move out..
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  • Posted by term2 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Sanders might beat Hillary as the Democratic candidate, but I doubt he could win a general election against trump. Even if he did, he would need both houses of Congress to be really dangerous. If he got that, the country deserves what it gets. Time to shrug or move
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Bernie is scary in that he is using popular rhetoric with no facts or possibility of happening to both get attention and votes. If Hillary goes to jail, it is possible the sheeple vote the loon in and we are at the hands of another Obamanation.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Exactly, no one should complain about it, just use another option, or crate one. Same thing with companies that have poor customer service, they eventually either change or fade.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My point is people like you who do not trust Wall Street do not use them to raise money or invest their money. If Sanders' supporters problem were not trusting Wall Street, they would do the same. It shouldn't be a political issue.
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  • Posted by mia767ca 8 years, 4 months ago
    one of milton friedman's favorite comments in response to objections of capitalist greed was to ask the reporter if politicans were greedy...is Obama greedy for socialism...
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