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Mainstream Media Journalist Exposes How the US ‘War on Terror’ Increased Terrorism by 4,500%

Posted by Zenphamy 8 years, 5 months ago to Politics
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So after all the talk in last night's Republican Debate about ISIS and Muslim Terrorists, let's back up a little bit and take a closer look at what $6,000,000,000,000.00, 7,000 KIA's, and 22 Veteran Suicides/Day has accomplished since we started the "WAR ON TERROR", and what we can expect from a future under "leadership" by a large part of the Republican Party or the Democratic Party.
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From the article:
“According to reports from our own U.S. government, reports of deaths from terrorism in the Middle East between 2002 and 2014 have increased 4,500 percent.

But let’s go a little deeper. Take for instance just the country of Iraq. Before the 2003 U.S. invasion, do you know how many suicide attacks there were in Iraq? None. In the country’s history there had never been one. But since the 2003 invasion, there have been 1,892.

And what about Afghanistan? Just last year alone, insurgents killed 2,643 civilians last year—the highest number since U.N. records began.

How about Pakistan? In the 14 years prior to 9/11 there was one suicide attack on Pakistani soil. In the 14 years since, there have been 486 suicide attacks.

The same is true in the past 14 years in Somalia (88), Yemen (85), Libya (29), Nigeria (91), and Syria (165).”
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And where are the 1.5million Christians that were living in their native country of Iraq before 2003? That's a question for Conservatives.




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  • Posted by 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Chesty; Thanks for adding this comment. I appreciate your points, and you're correct about the atrocities of Islam. It is a religion of savages and brutes

    But I didn't read the Posted article as defending Islam. I read it as a criticism of the results and goals our Gov't has lied to us about in their desire to have a "War". We had a right to go after Al Quieda and the Taliban immediately after 9/11 and grind them into the dirt as retribution, but we failed to go after the Saudi's--15 of the 19 hi-jackers were Saudis. And then we got ourselves involved in the losing effort of democracy building in Afghanistan.

    But worse yet, we gave up a lot of the Constitutional protections of our individual freedoms and rights in the process

    But going into Iraq and working to start and support the 'Arab Spring' were and are against the values of this country and Objectivism. And the results have made the world a more dangerous place than it was before. All that I can see that we've accomplished is to put ourselves into the middle of a religious was between Sunnis and Shiites, and to release and even support a mass of ignorance, thuggery, and savagery throughout the Mid-East.
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  • Posted by ChestyPuller 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No not obsessed, but one that will not let false stories making islam look like the poor attacked group.

    Please show me were the Bible [Christianity] wants to enslave; keep ones freedoms from being available. I am not speaking of sects that are corrupted such as with for example the Catholic sect. Or the Buddhist/Hindu religions; please show the enslavement.

    islam has pushed for and taught attacking Kuffar as good and wanted by islam through allah. There books all speak of attacking, murdering, raping, mutilating and torturing non-muslim's and muslim's that do not agree as making you a better muslim.

    So you are correct if you think I will stand against any propaganda that tries to make islam look like the peaceful group being assaulted.
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  • Posted by ChestyPuller 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What I was and am pointing out is that that statistics are skewed, TERROR ATTACKS HAVE BEEN GOING ON SINCE 623 A.D.

    The biggest difference is that the MSM is showing more of them, picking and choosing which ones they show. Muslim’s have been perpetrating these vicious acts all along.
    In the name of Islam 10 million Hindu’s in India were murdered, millions of African, Egyptian, Turkish and Middle Eastern Christians have been murdered; the total now over 270 million; yet the ‘article’ claims it’s more now than before?

    The article is suggesting that the U.S. is the initiator against islam and that is patently false just as it is calling the Crusades the attack against peaceful muslim’s; both were and are in retaliation of islamic evil.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Indeed, but it seems to obsess his mind. And I fear that reflects the thinking (or lack thereof) of many in this country, rather than reality.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Chesty; The conversation I brought to the forefront is strictly about the gains/lack thereof from the 'War On Terror' and had nothing whatsoever to do with the relative merits/evils of any religion, ZERO.

    It appears to me that you're the one that wants to discuss how dastardly and evil Islam is, including it's directives to implement a Theocracy.

    My position is quite clear. ALL religions are evil and anti-freedom, always have been, and always will be. And again, the only cause that effected our relative freedom from such drivers of ignorance and savagery was The Enlightenment. Had you spent as much time studying that major change in how men thought about the minds of men, the rights of men, and the fallacy of mystical, revelationary, and irrational knowledge---you might be better able to understand the topic of this Post.

    I've explained this to you now for the third time since your intrusion into this Post. If all you want to say, is that Islam is evil, I agree with you and I add, All religions have been and still are evil towards the life of men. But the points in this Post still stand.
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  • Posted by ChestyPuller 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Really, name another religion that currently has laws and punishment for theif [cutting off the right hand], women being beaten, raped and only having the value of a goat.
    It takes 4 muslim woman against 1 muslim to say he raped 1 of them in order to have the man punished or not have the woman stoned to death.

    Name a religion that has laws for lending and mortgages; I'm still waiting on my last questions to be answered.

    You brought this conversation to the forefront, defend it.
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  • Posted by Bethesda-gal 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hmm, I clicked on your name and went to your profile and clicked on the box that said message with a pencil icon but it said I had to be a producer. Am I not looking in the right place ?
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Go to the posters name look along the top edge of the page then sort by length of time or alpha beta. If they are prolific and involved will be at the top. The other way is punch on their posting name such as bethesda-gal . In the top left hand corner it will see private message answers to those go back and forth the same way. i just used one today to clear up a potential cross posting problem and another to verify this thread has not available data sites, cites nor sources to back up the figures posted. Appears I'm not the only interested in what ever the real problem is.. however it's like global warming....it's used to exploit and marginalizes real problems.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm not going to be portrayed as defending Islam, much less any religion. Any inference otherwise is a direct misrepresentation of anything I've ever said or written.

    Islam, in it's actions and functions is no different than any other religion in fighting reason and science in it's drive to keep people ignorant and subservient to the priests of the religion or the ruling elite that partner with the religion for the same purposes. The evil and savagery that results from such efforts and actions has been a significant part of the entire known history of mankind and no religion has clean hands in that history.

    The only relief mankind has ever had in all of that history, up through today, resulted from the Enlightenment of the 1700's and the establishment of this country with separation of church and state. And we still have to maintain the fight to keep that separation, even through today, with Christianity still desiring to have their 'beliefs' over-ride science, reason, and individual freedom in this country.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Did they ever come up with factual data? All the sites listed went to one reporter quoting another reporter and then some major left wing media sources complimenting them for the report. So far it's just numbers but then being non confrontational I can see why they wouldn't want to come up with actual facts at least none that made it to my eyes. If you have some send it to the private box. So far, to me, it's just a hoax, they got caught, and the rest is sad. Something is being covered up that's for sure. These things usually have some ground truth - But What? Where, When, Why, How? Maybe it's some secret mystic un named agent like the excuse they used after the fact for invading Kosovo? i'd be ashamed too but I'm not hiding...I was simply asking. Now I'm pouring gas on the fire.
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  • Posted by ChestyPuller 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In correct islam is more political then religious; Sharia law court rules, lending laws, what to wear in public laws, laws for beating women [not above the shoulders and on and on... Sorry it's not a religion
    islam has been murdering Kuffar long before these United States of America were founded. They destroyed and murdered most of India, Turkey and Africa. Muslim's were the largest [and known as the controller] of all of the African slave Trade. How about studying history...hmmm...
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    When he endorsed his version of VAT and put the 16% tax on business. So let's walk through this. Add 16 % to every business that's involved in getting you a new dining room table and chairs. From the tree cutter, the miner, etc. all the way through to the retailer. Those businesses put it under cost of government add and send the 16% collected to the government and ADD in the cost of collection. Finally it gets down to the retailer along with all the other embedded and enhanced fees and taxes. Sales Tax all paid for with after tax devalued dollars. So where exactly does the consumer get left out or benefit? Consumer costs go up and he's stuck with what income tax and this latest version of Pelosi's VAT? This version is a tax on income and not a Fair Tax any sign it will stay at 16% add on per business along the production and marketing chain? So like the flat tax it does nothing but wait for the next increase. A fair tax does one tax one time at the very end this doesn't qualify. Since it's Nancy Pelosillynni's favorite it's automatically a left wing tax and besides RINOs like Rand are also left wing. He's s fricking Republican not a Libertarian he left that behind when he went to the dark side. So did the Bohner replacement dude. And so did Cruz who asked for this same tax . Some assume it's a replacement for income tax. Where's the proof where's the protection it won't be both. Guys like Rand and Cruz ARE Pelosi's Camel Nose
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 8 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Leftist economics? When did he do that?

    Rand's problem is that he comes across as a guy you wouldn't want on your side in a bar fight. That shouldn't matter, but it does.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Ah the answer. They spend OPM so efficiently the expenditure is greater than the original amount. Point!
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  • Posted by 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes. The country was founded on the principle of citizen statesmen, and opposed professional politicians, political parties, and a professional gov't worker making governing decisions.
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  • Posted by edweaver 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree I should have been more clear. What I should have stated was an exorbitant living. They should be paid enough to cover their basic costs to survive while they are in office but not enough to create wealth or savings.
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