Elizabeth Warren’s Tax Warning

Posted by $ KahnQuest 8 years, 5 months ago to Government
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Apologies up front, as this is subscriber-only content. However, it is an excellent takedown of Sen. Warren's opinions on corporate tax reform.


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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The evidence is to the contrary if you speak of America meaning the government. They have shown no indication of paying off debts and plenty of reason through contrived inflation, devaluation and straight up hands down debt repudiation to more than suspect the opposite. They have no intention of ever paying the bill.

    If you speak of America the people when they tire of being tax slaves to the Government they will not pay the government's debt but repudiate it in whole. Starting with the moochers and looters who have nothing left to loot and nothing left to mooch. The producers will step to the side and let the looters and moochers duke it out. Then pick up the pieces and start over.
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  • Posted by james464 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What evidence do you have that America is going to have to repay the debt? Why hasn't it been called yet?
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It may sound idealistic, but I don't want to play the inner circle game. So I'll rephrase - the US should be less hostile to Producers, and consequently more hostile to Moochers and Looters.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Don't fall for the re-direct. The issue is the rate of corporate taxation in the US, and how corporations are leaving because the rates are excessive.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Nice try at a re-direct, but within the post taxes are the issue. Unless, of course, you can cite an instance of the reason stated for an inversion was a board's disagreement with how the taxes were spent.
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  • Posted by edweaver 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So there is no limit to the amount of tax collected that would be too much for you, it is just how it is spent?
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  • Posted by james464 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes I believe what I stated...it was not tongue-in-cheek. If man is good, define good.
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  • Posted by james464 8 years, 5 months ago
    Taxes are not the issue...it is what they are used for. Gov;t is legit, so how would you fund it without taxes?

    Man is no damn good, so he needs external direction in terms of means and ends.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's up to the leaders of the pack. Currently Socialist corporatist statists, socialist statist corporatists and a few socialist union leaders.

    But essentially you are correct. The opposite withing the triad itself occurred in 2008 when th the small banks were driven out of business by government edict and regulation changing along with the last cycle of economic repression.

    So less hostile depends on which business you are talking about. Apparently Pfizer wasn't in the inner circle or perhaps they are because all propaganda aside the move is purely economic
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    easy way is switch to end user consumption tax with only 'that which it takes merely to survive' as an exemption or deduction. Food, shelter, clothing, medicine, air, water. A Right To Life Exemption. That's 1.

    2. Government is not allowed to go into debt except for true national emergencies, war or natural disasters. And then must repay that debt as the first item of next years budget.

    3. Disaster by Government is not counted.

    the rest follows.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Apply the generational formula x+y=Zero. They won't notice and run to their safe space for a pouting contest.

    For the rest of us it's a matter of no choice. Choice was when you could have have voted the bastards out. Fourty or fifty years ago.

    The choices are running out.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Right, so then we're back at the answer suggested by the article. Turn the US into a less-hostile environment for business.
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  • Posted by Solver 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Think of all the children and unborn who are going to be forced to pay a progressively growing debt caused mostly by those ill-named regresives who are constantly creating numerous expensive politically correct individual rights destroying dependency rules.
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  • Posted by coaldigger 8 years, 5 months ago
    Taxes, by definition, are stealing from one entity to give to another. Only the corrupt would suggest that you could find good results from something that has it's roots in evil.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes but then the US Government adds on import duties and tariffs so the US consumer gets to pay twice and have no jobs left to earn the money to pay once, twice or ......!

    The myth of tariffs someone always loses...for someone else to gain.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You're correct that the costs are passed on to consumers, but the results still make a difference. If corporations keep moving out then Americans will end up paying for the governments of other countries.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 5 months ago
    All of this is a moot point. Businesses pay zero taxes. They pass them on to the consumer like any other overhead. Cost of Government IS a Cost of doing business.

    Pfizer's move is for other reasons using the tax dodge excuse as an excuse.

    The same as blaming religion for war.

    It's economics and business is war by another name.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 8 years, 5 months ago
    Regarding corporate taxes, Pfizer announced today that they will buy Allergan and move both to Ireland to reduce their corporate tax exposure. This comes twenty years after Pfizer bought out most of the pharma companies in Michigan, right as I was looking for jobs at those companies Pfizer bought out and downsized out of existence in the 1990s.
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