I bet that Beeel wanted to take the commodes, so that he could
hug them on saturday nights! -- j
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I guess he felt he deserved it for putting up with being governor of the state of the newly wed and nearly dead. As to the Clintons, they even tried to take half the White House antiquities when they left, so nothing that they do would surprise me.

I wish that we could block their k street kickback money --
did you read the article about how rich Jeb got after he left
the governorship in florida? . and the Clintons. -- j

p.s. http://www.wnd.com/2015/11/jeb-bush-p...
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Blocking their PAC money would be pretty effective.

we might surround the capitol and refuse to let their pizza in,
until they capitulated and fired the top half of the VA. -- j
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yes, and they have a creative accountant estimating attendance! -- j
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Indeed, independendent thought is rarely welcomed or authorized. But I have always worked night shift, where we get a lot more leeway. Also I have beenpromoted to an engineering technician. and as they cut heads we ended up with one engineer. The engineering techs are now the same as an engineer, so you do not have to worry about idiots, since we also work directly with and for the floor technicians. I have managed to keep pushing the idea we support them, so we have done more to give them what they need, vice what someone else thinks they do.

Yes, I also gave to DAV, until they uncovered their mess with their director. Since you can't get the truth from anyone, I just stop until some proves they are clear. I will see what I can dig up to, that is interesting, and if so, I plan on asking O'Reily and singer dude why.

Once again we are in total agreement.

I got it from a person who was a wounded vet who referenced it, but I haven't heard from him in a while. I'll try to track him down.

When I was an employee, I was a very good employee, but I hated being an employee. Looking back, I realize that I wasn't able to take orders that I deemed as either stupid or not necessary. I finally saved enough to go into businesses for myself. I know that I would eventually get fired because I'd be telling my bosses how to do their jobs.

The media uses those demonstrations to just bend to the mainstream agenda. Remember the million moron march?

Also, I used my training to parlay into a job making computer chips with a large company we know very well. Have had to learn how to "adapt" to the current business culture in place, but if you mind your mouth, you can do well. Truth is not always welcome there either. I have seen some huge mistakes happen because no one listened. Just as with everything else today. At 17K a year, you cannot "retire". So the wounded vets who cannot work, or whose skills do not translate need some special consideration. And well they should get it too.

Where is that documented? I would like to use it. I almost gave in to WW, but not on those conditions.

I was about to continue ... I hope that stand will not
involve firearms. . this nation was crafted to survive
by peaceful means, and we should do all that we can
to make it so....... -- j
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You're lucky to be in a position to be able to take care of yourself. I'm sure you worked hard to get where you are. But, you're right, particularly the wounded guys. They are forced to go to charities like the Wounded Warriors, where the CEO makes over 300K a year.

Someday? I live in hopes.
Some jerk once told me, "Hey, they volunteered." I almost whacked him with my cane, but I didn't have the one with the metal handle. I told him so do police, so do firemen in that they're not conscripted. If we treated them like vets, you could enjoy watching vandals burn down your house.

Yessir!!! . they are playing a game with our lives. -- j
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there may someday be a group of vets who appear in d.c.
and make a stand. . I might be among them. -- j
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Herb, I retired 20 years ago and have never bothered with any vet stuff, since it is just too hard (which is their whole point), what I feel bad about is the way they have abandoned the wounded vets who never got the help they were promised by the creeps. One reason I do like Jim Webb, he is definitely the best one from that respect.

Exactly right carl.

John, I know it is real, my point is the way they manipulated it, moved it, called it different names, indicates that THEY do not think it is real. It is just a boatload of numbers, accounts and paper. Like they were buying houses to put on Park Place or something. The looters are so secure in their theft techniques they now openly just move crap around and pretend it isn't a problem, just like they "raise the debt ceiling". To them, it's just increasing your credit limit on the credit card. No big deal. They all need to go and start over with real people.

More than anything, the treatment of our Vets gets me angry almost beyond control. Frustrating!

the horrible thing is the corruption in vet services. . that people
would graft off of the servicemembers is so incredibly
shameless that there are no consciences involved. -- j
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It means nothing to them cause they didn't work for it, not to mention not beholden to their constituents and do not have a sense of mutuality with them.