I'm happy he meets your approval. Chuck is a graduate of the Naval Academy in Annapolis. He was also a Branch Chief in the Guided Missile program in the DOD. He speaks my tech language and gets through to me on a comfortable level. I'm giving you a link to my Dropbox so you can download a recent study he did on the End Time Scenario. Just click dowload, then download as zip file. Unzip into a folder and have fun. There's a pdf for opening the files in iTunes or QuickTime, plus notes for your computer or pda. I'm having problems using RealPlayer on these files so Apple it is. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ow0ff4zoan1ya... If you have problems or questions, email me your phone number to joe@packet-masters.com and I'll call you and give you mine.

This study would normally be done over 6 weeks hence 6 sessions of ~one hour per week. The studies I have are the slides and soundtracks, which are less costly than in a DVD format. You can find these on YouTube but they're broken up into 10-15 minute segments.

That video was interesting. Let me go a little farther and say that he spoke as a teacher I have been searching for. Now I have more to tell others about and to look into. Thank you gonzo. There is not a teacher around here like this man. Here all the preachers talk the same talk.

and the 'who decides and why' is, for me, one of the best challenge/arguments against eugenics, especially if the 'who' is a government agency.

Individuals with freedom of choice... usually ok.

I love your attitude. Again seems we are kindred spirits. I attempted to watch the video but too many folks and actions this afternoon. I will get back to you once I watch it in the morning when no one is here to disturb me. Thank you for sharing. I enjoyed the few minutes I did have to watch it. I am retired Navy so our insurance is pretty good too. Glad we do not have deal with O care.

Really, who the genes were altered matter because of what. It makes no difference whether it was done with selective breed, or random genetic variation, or bioengineered. What matters is the genetic makeup of the plant.

That is absolutely not true!!! There is a big difference between 'hybrid' and GMO. Completely different things.

The stroke was 8 years ago so it's old history. Fishing, and other hobbies I can't do, have been replaced by being a resources for others in the areas we talked about yesterday. I enjoy turning the light bulb on in people's minds in all these areas, allowing them to pursue it further at their own pace. I'm like the rabbit in Alice in Wonderland. I can go down the rabbit hole but it's up to them (Alice) how far down the hole they go. 8-)

GMO's (All seeds are genetically modified), but specifically bioengineered seeds are the only reason that we can feed almost everyone on this planet. They require less water, less pesticides, less time to grow, they are boon to mankind. Being against GMOs makes as much sense as being against oil.

Yes I have watched it many times and do my best to get others to watch it too. I was shocked when I watched it and angry.
Sorry to hear about your stroke. Too bad you do not have a fishing partner that help you. Have you ever thought about inventing a reel that you could operate at the push of a button? They have one for deep sea fishing. It is pretty neat. you can use it one handed. I will try to find out who makes it. I believe it could be adapted for fresh water.
Thank you for the link.

Actually there are a lot of seeds available that are not GMO. Under US code, even 'organic' seeds could be GMO. If one wants truly non-GMO seed the must find 'heirloom' seeds; that is, seeds that are 'open-pollinated', and are capable of producing viable seeds for the next year. These seeds have carefully been kept pure, and to be considered heirloom, I believe the standard is at least 50 years old( for the strain).
Another huge problem with GMO is that most genetically altered seeds from bio-tech companies like Monsanto, is that their seeds are what we refer to as "terminator seeds"; that is, they will grow a mature plant and fruit or flowers, but will not produce viable seed for next year. The gardener or farmer or rancher must buy new seed stock every year. These companies are causing massive damage to the agricultural infrastructure in the country, and if we starve, they will carry much of the blame.
I know several people in agriculture, and I work in horticulture, so this is something I know about first hand.

I don't have Netflix anymore since my daughter moved out. Chances are that I can find it on YouTube. Interesting video on Walmart and the RFID scanner, thank you. We're lucky that we are on Medicare through our SSDI coverage so we don't have to deal with O Care. In the studies I've done, the mark of the beast isn't the RFID chip but something entirely different. Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD9U9LNUQ... Chuck is the teacher that I use in my Bible studies. This short video will give you a taste of his style and give you a different interpretation of "the mark." The bottom line is still the same; take it and you're doomed for eternity.

Have you seen Farmageddon yet? The death of small farms is happening before our eyes. I'm jealous of your pond and small mouth! I used to have a bass boat but sold it many years ago. Now I couldn't go fishing if I wanted to with one functioning hand (stroke). I'll just have to enjoy through others. 8-)

No you did not bore me. I have been fishing today. That is why you did not hear me before now. Just had a fish dinner that was yum. Fresh from my own pond. Oh boy what a good day.
I too am a Christian. I know there are many hidden things in the Word. I have been talking to others about starting a study group. I love the fact we are kindred spirits. Too few these days can be found.
I meant to say in the previous post that I like to get to "know" others not get to others.. Goodness I need to slow down sometimes.
If you watch Netflix there are great documentaries about what is going on with farming and GMO's. I have known for a long time how this government has been working behind our backs to cause more harm than good. Have you searched about Walmart and the RHID scanner? It is a scanner set up by Obama of course. It has to do with O care. Well why do you need to have an implant in your right hand for that? It is on youtube check it out.
Thanks for the information you have been giving me. I really do appreciate it.

I like interfacing if they aren't trying to eat my face off. I enjoy enlightening people with new information they aren't aware of based on their posts. I very much believe in the state of affairs we currently find ourselves in as depicted in Ethos and many of Alex Jones' films.

This has also led me to become knowledgeable in the environment and nutrition once I found out that the powers that be are purposefully handicapping us using pharmaceuticals, airborne poisons (chemtrails), water-borne poisons (fluoride), vaccines and GMOs (discussed in this post topic) to shorten our lives or making us docile so they can control us. The list goes on and on as you obviously are aware of. I watched another video last night that gives you a picture of how the government and powers that be are behind the false flag attacks, like 9-11, Boston bombing, Oklahoma City bombing, etc. in order to change policy. The video is called State Of Mind: The Psychology of Control. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ_yVu1NT...

I'm also a Christian believer who is fascinated by what's hidden in the Bible and enjoy moderating home Bible studies. I've probably bored you to tears so I'll quit and give you a break. 8-)

You had me giggling early off this morn. I will stick around. my skin is pretty thick. I really like it here. I like to get to others thru their thought processes don't you.

I'm too tired tonight. Enos = Ethos 8-)

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That should wake a few people up if they'll take the time to watch it. I've seen much of the info before from various other sources. It made me want to rewatch Alex Jones' Endgame video. It was made in 2008 but is every bit as valid today as Enos. The link is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-CrNlilZ... You've probably already seen or heard of it before if you watched Enos. Stick around, these posts can get interesting at times. You just need to remember to where your flak jacket! 8-)

You are welcome. Let me know what you think

I found it on YouTube. Here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpMzoBR2... I'll be watching it today. Thanks Mona.

Sorry, RobertFL, but that's exactly the same "if we wait LONG ENOUGH we'll be sure it's safe," and there is NO 'long enough' measurement that will prove to you or anyone else 'that it's safe,' so it's just another red herring 'argument.'

As I said, Adaptability (and flexibility) is what tends to keep humans successful as a species, and no, we're not all being killed by Killer Bees, either.

EVERYTHING is, at some time or some degree or level, 'dangerous' or 'deadly' to humans.

That's one of the bases of My First Law: "The whole world is a tradeoff."

And your 'free to propagate, uncontrolled,' is something I refer to as 'the catastrophization of information in America.'.... just as you imply ALL foods will 'go GM'. Many might. Some might not. Who chooses? You?

I haven't, but I'll look around for it. Thanks!

Thank you gonzo309. Have you watched ETHOS. It was playing on Netflix. They said that the website might get shut down and it did. Have not searched to see if another is up. Woody Harrelson narrated. It covers much more than GMO's.
Thank you again,
Mona Lisa

When I started this post I provided a link to the movie Genetic Roulette: The Gamble Of Our Lives, that Jeffrey Smith did that started it all. Here's the link to the movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbACx-DqB...

Thank you, I will enjoy this I am sure. Glad to hear someone else knows just how nasty this is. I am one of those people that does not understand dishonesty when it is too easy to be honest. Thank you again. I came here to find like minded people, glad I did. I believe it will take a revolution and complete dismantle of the present so called government to save our country. Only then can we help others.
Best to you,
Mona Lisa

There's more. When I went to the site that dbhalling provided as a resource for his argument, I followed the author of that article to his website http://www.producer.com and found a story that further adds info to what you posted.

http://www.producer.com/daily/u-s-gmo-cr... This quote taken from that article:

>But while insecticide use has gone down, herbicide use on GMO corn is rising, the report states. Herbicide use on GMO corn increased from around 1.5 pounds per planted acre in 2001 to more than 2.0 pounds per planted acre in 2010. Herbicide use on non-GMO corn has remained relatively level during that same time frame, the ERS said.

And the over reliance on glyphosate has translated to an increase in weed resistance, which makes crop production much harder. Glyphosate is the chief ingredient in Roundup herbicide sold by Monsanto, and its use has translated to the glyphosate resistance seen in 14 weed species and biotypes in the United States, according to ERS.<

So the seeds cost more, more herbicide is used than previously, the yields are reduced and the weeds are now herbicide resistant so labor goes up because workers have to go through the fields with machetes to cut down the resistant weeds before harvest. I'm just talking about the economic lie that the seed producers keep telling. I won't even get into the increased toxicological effect the increased levels of glyphosate creates.

You are a little late to this party so I want to point out a great video with oodles of info to back up our case provided by Danno at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_AHLDXF5... Thanks for the update!