Purchasing Atlantis from a debt-ridden country, but with autonomy built into the purchasing agreement?
Many of us, led by db and Kh, have been debating the subject of immigration. I would love to see America get back to her pre-1913 roots, but for numerous reasons, I think that such effort is a waste of time and resources.
Freedomforall, in response to my suggestion that America sell its "government land" to pay down at least part of its debt, asked if such a sale could include the right to secede.
That prompted me to consider the possibility of buying land from debt-ridden countries (some of which are experiencing hyperinflation) at rockbottom prices, with autonomy being required as a condition of purchase. As debt piles up all around the world, there will be some opportunities along these lines for vultures like myself to come scavenge the debris. Perhaps an island off the Venezuelan coast with some nearby oil? In our previous discussions about a physical Gulch, our premise had been to buy land that the nearby government would largely ignore based on its track record of freedom (or lack thereof). That may be the wrong premise to work from. Why should we not provide a value for value trade in their time of desperation? The question then is how long do we wait. The price for the land in such desperate countries should continue to go down, but the conditions in our own countries might get bad enough that we could get trapped by 10-289.
The United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, and Thailand are working toward the development of micronations off their coasts. Interestingly, Google is developing the first such island. The linked article describes some of the first work along these lines.
Freedomforall, in response to my suggestion that America sell its "government land" to pay down at least part of its debt, asked if such a sale could include the right to secede.
That prompted me to consider the possibility of buying land from debt-ridden countries (some of which are experiencing hyperinflation) at rockbottom prices, with autonomy being required as a condition of purchase. As debt piles up all around the world, there will be some opportunities along these lines for vultures like myself to come scavenge the debris. Perhaps an island off the Venezuelan coast with some nearby oil? In our previous discussions about a physical Gulch, our premise had been to buy land that the nearby government would largely ignore based on its track record of freedom (or lack thereof). That may be the wrong premise to work from. Why should we not provide a value for value trade in their time of desperation? The question then is how long do we wait. The price for the land in such desperate countries should continue to go down, but the conditions in our own countries might get bad enough that we could get trapped by 10-289.
The United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, and Thailand are working toward the development of micronations off their coasts. Interestingly, Google is developing the first such island. The linked article describes some of the first work along these lines.
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In which case we'd have plenty generally worth taking overall but the cost (and difficulty) of doing so would be dramatically higher. These factors are one of the prime reasons early America was able to grow and thrive as it did.
Entering into a monetary agreement with them will give them legitimacy, stave off the inevitable, and undermine their indigenous population who are sick of the looters' rule.
What's more, if it is a looter state, it is pretty much a guarantee that they will never honor the agreement. They will whip up Marxist propaganda about how the land was stolen from them by greedy capitalists who took advantage of them in their time of need and who robbed them of their most resource rich land (and it must be the most resource rich, just look at how much better they are doing than us).
The attempt to reacquire the purchased land by force would be inevitable.
Emigrate when you are leaving to go elsewhere
migrate while on the move
Immigrate when you are arriving elsewhere.
Taxes south of the border are not all that high. Depends on what status you hold.
Deduct the cost of not owning any property north of the border and treat the USA as someplace to visit (family considerations) when compared to a state like Michigan to which even Florida represents a huge reduction in cost but further south it can be a tremendous savings. I can't give you chapter and verse but up north in Mexico there are two ways besides just renting or leasing. One is buy or build the house and lease or rent the land. The other is own the land and the house. The third is live on a boat or in an RV.
tough if you are still working but instead of investing in US Land for retirement purposes think of south of the border land and visiting the grand kids.
Lot of changes down here all for the better. But as for working or starting a business that's another story - although why if you are retired?
It's a worth while goal. Especially considering the alternative.and more especially with a mini ice age starting up in the next few years.
Consider that a well deserved dig on the global warming scam.
(no panic needed for global cooling the prediction is .1 Centigrade cooler)
https://liberland.org/en/news/
http://www.usnews.com/news/business/a...
Liborland is not thriving, but Croatia, Serbia, and Bosnia are not exactly thriving either.
http://www.usnews.com/news/business/a...
Given all they've lived through, I can't blame them for trying to find more freedom. They are facing the real issues that would be inherent in any geographical 'Gulch'. I wouldn't call it thriving. I wouldn't leave here to go there; but it's probably a step up for them.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/04/...
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