Ha! Clever plan.

Jan

Hello overmanwarrior,
One thing I do like about Trump is his unapologetic success, individualism and his need for no allegiances to cronies if he were to be in office.... Of course his history out of office is filled with need and use of cronies. If I had to choose between him, the criminal, or the self proclaimed socialist... no contest. Trying to remain optimistic, I hope to have other options.
Regards,
O.A.

Hello ohiocrossroads,
Could be like biting into an apple only to find a worm... a little too late then isn't it?
Respectfully,
O.A.

Hello khalling,
Yes. I wonder if Trump ran into a db of his own, figured things out for himself or is just playing a game. Skepticism is warranted .
Regards,
O.A.

Good point, WS. Thanks for clarification.

As you pointed out, it's a spurious quote. So you can't conclude anything about what Jefferson thought from it.

Nickursis, Trump says he will defeat ISIS using economics. He will bomb their oil fields and cut off their transfer of money. He will starve them. I think this is a very effective strategy.

Nickursis,

A little context of the post you are referring too.

The study refereed to in the book this thread is referencing found that 40% of those in the study who knew the correct answer when ask the question privately would follow a strong leader (actor placed in the group) who gave a false answer and based of brain activity believe they were right while in group think mode following that planted leader.

The only way it would apply to Polosi really thinking Obamacare is right is if Polosi is not thinking but following the group thought based on Obama's leadership. Which could be the case but I doubt it.

Hillary is clearly leading on the email server had no possibility of group think as a factor.

Obama talking of Iran and power plants, he would be the planted leader. The people who regurgitate anything Obama says may actually believe his BS. They take it as fact and engage in group think, they actually believe what he feeds them to be true. If the study is accurate then about 40% of people will follow a leader who states boldly a lie, and think it to be truth. Very likely a factor in this scenario.

I think I have also made statements in favor of free market banking. I (and others) have provided sources for the criticism of the banking cartel, e.g., The Creature From Jekyll Island.

So now that you have tried to deflect the topic to place blame on me and I have answered, how about actually posting some support for the statement that "Jefferson also did not understand how fractional reserve banks worked and vilified because of his ignorance."

you make comments against banking regularly on the site without separating out the crony and Fed from the purpose of banking in the first place, including financing which is essential to business growth

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless "

this is a famous quote which may be a great political statement but shows no understanding of fractional reserve banking or finance generally and is not anything Jefferson actually said.. Jefferson was in debt most of his life. Perhaps he's too biased to trust on this. edited: to include a sentence for clarity

Box of Air?

No box of dirt now. It wouldn't have put Obamacare in place or made soldiers have to defy orders to attempt to save an ambassador or gone on an apology tour.... or spent 6 years talking negatively about the country at every opportunity. A box of dirt would be big improvement.

More than once when talking with a socialist about something objectivity in nature I have had that socialist bring up the fact that rand was dependent on the government at the end of her life taking social security. Her life and what she shared with us would be more powerful had she not given that validation to them.

I hold nothing against her for this, She did what she felt was right. In this case it took some of the power of who she was and what she shared with us away in so doing. It validated the social security system. when she took the money from it. I hold nothing against a person who has paid into government systems and uses them, but I also hold to reality. There are consequences.

In Rands case it weakened her augments when using them against socialists.

In the case of trump it weakens his case a candidate for president because even with free money he has failed many times. It shows he is a person who can negotiate to get what he wants, but once he has it he lacks the fortitude to stick with it and make what needs to happen happen.

Not every simple search on the internet yields truth:

http://www.monticello.org/site/jeffer...

I am not your research assistant either. I didn't make the statement that Jefferson didn't understand banking, you did. You made a statement and now refuse to provide any support for it.

I am not your research assistant. It is well known that Jefferson was against banks, do a simple search on the internet.

I have no idea what you are talking about, but I am interested. Share a link, please?

I don't understand the question. Are you asking if I was Airborne?

I too am a veteran, albeit a short active Army enlistment and some time in the reserves. Being in the "combat arms" could mean you were in any of the military branches or even CIA.

No thanks. I don't play the false left/right paradigm game. There is no difference between the two "parties". They are both big government corporatist organizations and, like the media, are used to give the people a false choice. (just as FOX News has the same messages controlled by the military industry as MSNBC, they just cater to a different demographic).

Your misunderstanding of the word "fascist" is all I needed to see. Hard to believe you are on an objectivist forum.

I recommend DiLorenzo's book, The Real Lincoln . There are a lot of presentations on youtube by DiLorenzo that you may find interesting, too.

Here you go: The damage control and the "they really don't matter, everything is fine" mantra to get the drones back on message.

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/the-my...