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  • Posted by NealS 8 years, 9 months ago
    The aftermath of Trump, the stuff that is happening now and his reaction to it, will be his downfall to the "R" party. His personal debate with Rand Paul didn't help either one of them. After this morning, Trump can only further divide the party. People will see him, as my wife expressed it, after hearing some tweets about him passing on some gross comments about Megyn Kelly. My wife said, "We've got an asshole in the White House now, do we need another one?" I think Kelly's question was appropriate, many people want to know. I agree with him on Rosie but I'm not running for president. He's got a "My way or the highway mentality, much like Obama. I don't see him as being any different than Obama, only in a different direction. I think he'll blow it even further, just give him the opportunity.
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 8 years, 9 months ago
    I was disappointed in Trump. Perhaps he should have done some debate prep instead of going golfing. He could have done so much better, for example use the "will you support the nominee" question to say "You don't take options off the table when making a deal".

    I wish Rand Paul would have been better, although it's interesting that he seems the only one who actually cares about the constitution.

    I'm shocked at the polling this morning. I guess people are really angry with politicians and the less you look like one the better.
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    • Posted by 8 years, 9 months ago
      Trump did expose the lie of his, "I am a great negotiator" claim. There will be a lot of those blindsided moments for Trump. Suit full of hot air (like most of the candidates.)
      I wish I was shocked at the polling, WS, but I get your point. Irrationality is just hard to believe even though we are exposed to it all the time.
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      • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 8 years, 9 months ago
        I don't think you can be a bad negotiator and do as well as he has done. I have to believe that beneath that bluster there is a shrewd businessman but I didn't see it.
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        • Posted by 8 years, 9 months ago
          No doubt, in a narrow range of activity, Trump has made some good deals. Is that due to a special ability to negotiate, or due to many other factors like knowledge in the area (positive), pull with politicians (negative), the money to buy inside information (negative)?
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          • Posted by hattrup 8 years, 9 months ago
            I would thing acquiring inside information is a positive.
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            • Posted by 8 years, 9 months ago
              Agreed, I had to think about that particular judgement. Depends on legality and imo Trump hasn't exhibited trustworthy ethics.
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              • Posted by hattrup 8 years, 9 months ago
                oh yes - legalities...
                I could not claim everything Trump has done is legal.
                Then again, I may have committed a few misdemeanors (perhaps a felony going over the RR tracks) walking to the store this morning.

                Trump ethics may be about the same as a typical politician - except he is less likely to be subtle about it.

                In general - Trump's ethics do not seem based on individual freedom and liberty - and in that sense I would not find him nor 95% of our politicians trustworthy.
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    • Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 9 months ago
      Trump let Megyn Kelly make him into whining little boy at the get-go of that debate.
      I was cheering Trump on until that happened.
      Does Trump think a Demrat (sp ck ok) candidate will play nice at all during a debate?
      Here it Demrat comes--"War on women!" "War on women!" Ad nauseam.
      Let's see The Donald "negotiate" such stuff getting under his skin.
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  • Posted by gaiagal 8 years, 9 months ago
    Trump was a disappointment, although not an unexpected one. Rand was irritating as well as disappointing. He reminded me of a child arguing with a sibling. I had the mental image of him stamping his foot.

    I preferred Carly Fiorino from the Happy Hour debate to anyone from either debate. I was rather surprised at this.

    I was also rather surprised to find I disliked Megyn Kelly in this forum. Every time I saw her I got the impression of the supercilious smile and eyerolls of a Mean Girl. She never struck me that way before. I imagine, being an old timer, I have different expectations of what a debate is ...and good TV is not one of them.

    Don't know why these two Q & A sessions were called "debates." Everyone plays fast and easy with words these days.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 9 months ago
    Good Grief.
    I think that those who voted for Trump miss their daddies. It's obvious that they don't care what he says so long as he says it in his bombastic manner.
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  • Posted by $ Tap2Golf 8 years, 9 months ago
    That poll is hard to believe. Looks like a lot of people wanting to see the show continue for entertainment ala Donald Clinton. I haven't seen any if the other polls. Needed to take a break.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 8 years, 9 months ago
    freedomforall,
    Trum and Hillary Clinton wouldn't be the only
    choices? Well, if Trump got the Republican nomin-
    ation and H. Clinton got the Democratic, a 3rd par-
    ty or independent vote would be a throw-away vote.--But I hope that won't happen. If Clinton
    is the Democratic nominee, and somebody like
    Cruz is the Republican, though, if Trump runs as
    a 3rd-party candidate or an independent, that
    could cause Clinton to get it. And that would be
    a disaster.--I just mean that if Trump gets the Republican nomination,
    I guess I'll have to hold my nose and vote for him.
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    • Posted by 8 years, 9 months ago
      The only throw away votes are the ones for evil statists, and that includes all the GOP and Democrats who have a chance to be on the ticket.
      Third party votes are the only ones that aren't wasted. Disaster? Look at the record of the GOP compared to the lies they tell to get elected EVERY TIME. Look at what the GOP has done since taking control of both houses of con-gress. They have had enough chances to do the right things and to stop lying. Neither the GOP or the Dems have earned your consent and they never will. The sooner people revolt at the ballot box the better the chance that a less peaceful revolt will be avoided.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 8 years, 9 months ago
    I think that Trump is like a cross between Ross
    Perot and P.T.Barnum. I sure hope he doesn't get
    the nomination, and that enough people have sense
    enough not to throw their (third-party/independent)
    votes away on him. Still, if he did get it, I'd vote for him over Hillary Clinton--although that in it-
    self is no great compliment.
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