Jackass???

Posted by AmericanGreatness 8 years, 9 months ago to News
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I have no issue whatsoever hunting, if you eat what you kill. To kill simply for the sake of the thrill of the kill, you are a JACKASS.


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  • Posted by richrobinson 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I don't want anything to happen to this guy unless he blatantly broke laws. Wonder where his next hunting trip will be?
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  • Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    -1. I totally disagree with you that only a christian can be moral. What a pile of lion scat. This is the same narrow mindedness spewed by other religions such as islam. The main difference is lately the christians haven't beheaded anyone in the name of their god.

    "Faith and feelings are the warm marrow of evil. Unlike reason, faith and feelings provide no boundary to limit any delusion, any whim. They are virulent poison, giving the numbing illusion of moral sanction to every depravity ever hatched. Faith and feelings are the darkness to reason’s light. Reason is the very substance of truth itself. The glory that is life is wholly embraced through reason. In rejecting it, in rejecting reason, one embraces death."
    Terry Goodkind
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  • Posted by XenokRoy 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I never took pictures, or compared point totals. I have no mounted heads, or even horns from past hunts. With me the first buck that I found was usually the one that got shot. The exception to this was if I missed him.

    I also realize I am not the norm in the industry, most hunters hunt for sport. I would bet that all likely hunt for sport today. Those that hunted for any other reason have been driven out by costs.

    I have been asked before by other hunters what the biggest buck is I ever bagged. My answer has always been "I do not know or care." to which I get looked at like I am nuts.

    I read a biography of Larry H. Miller in which one of his hunting buddies said "As soon as I shot anything the fun ends and the work begins." and I thought that never has a more true statement been uttered. When I did hunt it was more about going out with friends for a few days of camping, hiking around... if I got my buck the first day the work was done and I could just enjoy the rest of it.

    If it was a spike or two point, it was smaller, easier to clean and easier to pack out. The whole thing would become jerky as that was the one thing I really enjoyed from Venison anyway and a smaller animal gave me plenty.
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  • Posted by khalling 8 years, 9 months ago
    this is a different place. be okay with that. I will find us somewhere we are comfortable at. I will
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  • Posted by 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    On this we completely agree. The terrorist threat we face, the shredding of The Constitution, ever-increasing regulatory, and ever-increasing taxation of producers are far more important, and yet they receive a fraction of the attention.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    XR, I sincerely appreciate your reasoned, level-headed responses. They're in stark contrast with several others.

    While I agree that not everyone observes the same moral compass, that doesn't mean its right or productive. Moral relativism is major contributing factor to the decline in our society today. There are absolute rights and absolute wrongs, whether one wishes to recognize them.

    Our freedom, liberty, and property rights require a society that is moral. They are inextricably bound, as the Founding Fathers knew all to well. In fact, Adams says it far more eloquently:

    "We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. . . . Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Christianity has NOTHING to do with the topic of this post...you have accomplished your goal in waylaying the entire course of discussion.
    I do not care what YOU accept or WHO judges me...what the fuck are you even talking about. You do NOT understand the premise of this sight at all...why are you hear.
    Christ if it isn't CG it's this guy hounding the crap out of me.
    Thanks Scott, again for ignoring this type of behavior in YOUR gulch.
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    Posted by 8 years, 9 months ago
    And we finally pealed the onion sufficient to find your true animosity, which is Christianity. You want freedom to do whatever you personally feel is acceptable without consequences or being judged.

    The perfect freedom you seek doesn't exist in the world and never will, because removing the moral compass actually results in loss of freedom.

    We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. . . . Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.-- John Adams
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The family dog? A lion is NOT a pet and they are ALWAYS a WILD ANIMAL.. just Ask Ziegfried and Roy. Really, Rich?
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And bo weighs in because of an online petition (how many of those has he ignored that were about HIM or things he favored?) and wants to make a spectacle of extraditing the dentist. (I really wanted to use the word 'extracting' there.) I can't believe the things people pay attention to and the stuff they ignore. People getting murdered in this country by TERRORISTS in this country gets glazed over compared to this lion coverage. WE.ARE.A.MESS!
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  • Posted by XenokRoy 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    AG,

    Not everyone shares that moral opinion and while I do, an even greater moral opinion is that people have agency to do what they wish, so long as it is by agreement and consent. Everything indicates this guy paid the permits and had agreement and consent to go hunt a Lion. He did what he had paid to do. Even if we think it wrong, it is right that a person can do so.

    I could apply this same logic to Standard Oil in the 1890s. the "price fixing" they were accused of and that was made illegal may have in some cases involved some unethical means, but the argument that it should be governed was wrong then and it would also be wrong today.

    When it comes to morality each man or woman must live by their own conscience. The only exception to this is when a person initiates force against another and then its a different story.
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  • Posted by khalling 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    X, you know med. anything is "super cute". I do love babies and toddlers. they completely get my sense of life
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  • Posted by XenokRoy 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    So true. No one would care about the person who killed a Crocodile.

    This thread and this story have now been blown so far out of proportion its just laughable. The guy paid for permits, did everything he should have and killed the favored animal of the area. Unless there was something done incorrectly it should go away. He likely will not get his mounted trophy Lion he paid to get. Even a Jackass deserves to get what he worked and paid for with his efforts and by agreement. Its to bad he is likely not going to.
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  • Posted by XenokRoy 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If they are super CUTE to you that is great. My wife would likely see them, pick up the nearest shoe and start smacking them till dead. Anything that looks reptilian in her presence is going to trigger either a fight or flight mechanism as she does not care of reptile looking things.

    You likely find it in your best interest to clean up their shit and enjoy them, good for you. I hope you enjoy them.

    I personally think it would be cool to buy a few monitor lizards and have them running around the farm all summer. The winter would likely kill them even if I had a shelter for them, but they would be cool.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Wrong again... I asked XenoxRoy a question and you stepped in and attempted to answer it...YOU pay attention.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Don't exaggerate what I said. Your self importance and moral authority that you think you have is not capable of seeing or admitting that what you are advocating WILL cause starvation for many animals and PEOPLE in the areas that live off of trophy hunts. You are in denial. Your moral code is severely flawed...like every other bible thumper I've ever met.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, that's what I'm advocating... starving people and animals. By calling out the immorality of killing an animal purely for a trophy, I'm advocating to the extinction of life on planet Earth.

    I'm not sure if you're simply stirring the pot or truly incapable of understanding my point. I truly hope it's the former.

    I can't be any clearer: 1) I have NO issue with killing an animal for food, safety, protection of livestock. 2) I believe it's immoral to kill an animal for nothing more than sport/trophy.
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  • Posted by LetsShrug 8 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Don't talk about respect for animals... if things were done your way animals would starve...and so would PEOPLE, which you don't consider at all. PEOPLE!
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