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Transgendering A Toddler Is Child Abuse

Posted by Zenphamy 8 years, 10 months ago to Philosophy
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I love the way this guy writes as well his willingness to address any 'political correctness' issue in plane language without fear of reprisal.

In this case: “The Day” referenced, is the day they decided to raise their son as their daughter. Just like that, a 3 year old says “I’m sad because I’m a boy” and his parents sentence him to a life as a transgendered person. Rather than tell Jack that being a boy was a good thing, rather than let him know society could not exist without men, rather than explain gender to Jack, deal with Jack’s sadness, or teach Jack how to be a man, these parents did what entirely too many parents do today, and placated him.

They bought him elastic hair bands and gave him ponytails. They, with the help of his pre-school teacher, began discussing what his female name would be. They, being the obviously less than creative people they are, decided to call Jack, Jackie. They bought Jack his own dresses, girl toys, and all the other things parents do when raising a girl."The hateful monsters of this world are the ones who tell sick people not to get better. The bigots are the ones who, in their contempt for humanity itself, encourage and promote a lethal illness. The cruelest and most evil people in this world are the ones who parade mental illness around as a source of pride for political purposes."

And:
"Men should be proud to be men, and women should be proud to be women. Both genders serve incredibly important and necessary purposes in society. Those purposes are different, they are unequal, and they are not always pleasant, but they have led us to become the undisputed ruling species of this planet. Those who would seek to undo this are the same ones who tell us that we should have fewer children because they blame “humanity” for the destruction of “nature” as if human beings were unnatural.

The promotion of transgenderism as some kind of civil rights cause that ought to be championed and paid for by government, is nothing short of a scheme to undo that which makes mankind the dominant species of the Earth. Gender is important, it is involuntary, and it is a positive and healthy feature of the human experience and our survival. The abolition of human gender is the abolition of the human race, I will stand in defiance against it until I am eaten by maggots, as should everyone who has even the slightest respect for humanity."


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  • Posted by plusaf 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You vote me down; I'll vote you down...

    In response to your last post...

    "In YOUR Never-So-Humble Opinion..."
    Cheers!
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  • Posted by 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Your arguments of consensus is simply to distract from the issues presented by the author nor is your accusation of denying societal pressure of any use to the discussion of the authors contentions or the findings of the study.
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  • Posted by plusaf 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The fact that I'm the only one who's mentioned consensus is irrelevant. Your assertion implies that the 'consensus' of NOT mentioning the effects of 'consensus' is a kind of consensus itself, just in a negative space. That's not proof, either.

    And it's "yours" not "your's"...btw... FIFY.

    I have no trouble acknowledging data on suicide, etc., among post-SRS people, but to conclude or imply that societal pressure is not a factor but having had SRS IS the predominant driving force is also illogical.

    This is getting too funny.
    Thanks.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The word gender (prior to 1955 a term most commonly applied as grammatical categories) applied as labels of humans by John Money, a soundly discredited quack and near Nazi level monster, and advocate of SAS and SRS based on his study of hermaphrodites is bullshit. The actual lives of his normal study test subjects subjected to SRS and SR therapy as children, finally revealed by the participants (victims) in 1997 should have stopped the nonsense.

    Relying on a fraud and quack for support of an entire industry to take advantage of or to influence or induce the mental disorder of Body Dysmorphic Disorder just emphasizes the fallacies of belief systems over actual science and facts of reality.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I haven't seen anyone suggest a law in this post.

    The only reference to consensus is your's.

    You're obviously not interested in the referred study of the suicide, attempted suicide, mental health, and other issues after SRS--apparently only in being a contrarian on this issue of transgenderism. But this is the study mentioned: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/artic...

    John Money's purported research and published work on labelling humans with grammatical category (gender) in 1955 based on his study of hermaphrodites, followed by his experiment in the John/Jane(?) case study (medical and professional quackery, malpractice, and evil nearing that of Nazi Dr.s), and his advocacy of SRS has been soundly disputed by the subjects of his research in 1997, and professionally. It appears that the Swedish study strongly supports that refutation.

    This strike 1.
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  • Posted by $ sjatkins 8 years, 10 months ago
    I cry bullshit. You cannot make someone transgender or unmake that state if they are transgender. A is A. Gender is not so simple as some wish it was. Sorry about that. But reality is what it is.
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  • Posted by plusaf 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Found it in the article...
    "Transgenderism is a body dysmorphic disorder. A person, for whatever reason, feels uncomfortable in their own skin. You see similar things in anorexic people who are insanely thin, but have an irrational fear that they are obese. Telling Jack that he can be a girl, is like telling an anorexic that they are fat and should not eat. It is an abusive, sick, terrible, and depraved thing to do to a person if they are a stranger, and for a parent to do it to a child is arguably as bad as sexually molesting them. Child sexual abuse victims have a greater chance of leading a healthy life, than do transgendered people."

    ALL of those comments are ASSERTIONS that presumably are correct in the author's mind, but contain no link or proof as to their veracity.

    The statements are 'true' because the author believes them to be true and he's based his 'argument' on that 'obvious truth' without proving it.

    If lots of people agree with him, THAT is 'consensus' and consensus (or 'agreement') is NOT a proof.

    And to ASSERT that taking bold steps to 'correct' a young child is "abuse" is projection, at least until they've interviewed a LOT of 'children' who've BEEN THROUGH that process and can describe their own feelings and conclusions about the effectiveness OR desirability of such "corrective action."

    You may not LIKE something for a whole slew of reasons, but that, too, is not [pardon the concept...] an Objectivist-based reason to legislate against it. If it is, it just proves that laws are the result of consensus and Truth is not part of the equation.

    Cheers!
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  • Posted by plusaf 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah, me, too...
    He who dies with the most toys still dies, but may have had a bit more fun on the trip...

    Or not.
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  • Posted by plusaf 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    you beat me to that one, Zen... Herb, one could debate the 'awareness' of congressmonkeys OR the 'do they care' part forever... :)
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  • Posted by plusaf 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    nope. no feelings of guilt. I've never had many feelings of 'guilt' in my life, actually, and certainly not in areas like these.

    Maybe the software here put one of my comments close to one of yours, helping you infer that my response was to your post, because there have been many times I've asked exactly that "who demanded YOU pay for it" question when folks explicitly made that complaint.

    Whatever. But no guilt felt here... sorry.
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  • Posted by VetteGuy 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm late 50's and my wife is STILL waiting for me to 'mature'! Many toys in the basement better suited to younger people. And I've got the bruises to prove it.

    My kids gave me a t-shirt that sums it up: Growing old is mandatory; Growing up is optional!
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yeah.
    What's "normal" in the Beltway is insane anywhere else. I wonder, since congress' approval rating is down in the 'teens, if they actually are aware of what jerks we think they are.
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  • Posted by $ Radio_Randy 8 years, 10 months ago
    And when he's not accepted by everyone, the child commits suicide, which is blamed on Society, rather than his parents...go figure.
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  • Posted by woodlema 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I do not think I criticized you. But if you have a personal feeling of guilt over what I stated then there is nothing I can do about that.

    I simply replied to your statement which implied I was just ranting (with no proof, just innuendo) about groups wanting to force others to pay for their personal decisions.


    Do you recall writing this? Oh..never-mind no need to recall, here is it.
    "Where, in the link, other than in some of the ranting comments, was there ANY mention of 'demanding that you or anyone else PAY for it?"
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  • Posted by 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I fail to see any reference to consensus or agreement.

    As to the study, I still reference the study indicated in the article as a good starting point and one of the latest.
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  • Posted by plusaf 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Consensus is not Truth, Agreement is nice but doesn't make anything a Fact... it's just Agreement.

    And/or link to double-blind controlled experimental data that in any way proves that what you Think is based on reality and not your opinion.

    If you can tell the difference... I can.
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  • Posted by plusaf 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Fine, Woodlema, but again, all I'm trying to do is be Socratic about the issue, nothing more...

    If you don't like the laws, work to change them and enlist others to help. Don't criticize me...

    Criticize them that's voted to elect and re-elect the 'people' who write and pass the legislation you don't like.

    You can either have Results or Reasons For Not Having Results, and the Choice is YOURS.
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  • Posted by 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And I'm saying that 'gender categories' belong to grammar. Applying them to actual humans is nonsense of the worst kind. It's labelling. And it originated with a monster named John Money in 1955.

    In my thinking, he's Mike--not gay Mike, and I treated him as Mike his entire life from his birth to his death, which wasn't a terribly long time.

    And had Mike been labelled as gay Mike at 31/2, his life would have been immeasurably worse than it was.

    I still fail to see Ludditeness.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm saying gender categories are not only unimportant, but transcending them is just the first step of transhumanism. ALL of which should be tolerated.
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