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Less Than 52% of Wounded Warrior Project Donations Helps Vets

Posted by $ allosaur 8 years, 10 months ago to News
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About two years ago I was all enthused about donating $19 am month to the Wounded Warrior Project due to the ads we've all seen on TV. Then I read somewhere that the CEO makes $300,000 anally. That gave me pause, for I wondered what did the #2 person make as well as the rest of the top people in the administration. So I did not donate. Now today I read what is in the link and feel inspire to share.
SOURCE URL: http://bulletsfirst.net/2015/07/03/proof-that-wounded-warrior-project-uses-less-than-52-of-donations-to-help-vets/


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  • Posted by Esceptico 8 years, 10 months ago
    I can’t get enthused about the Wounded Warrior or any other similar group. It is a shame so many have died and suffered lifelong injuries for themselves and their families by being, what I have to say is, sucked into the patriotism mentality and fighting wars for politicians. The U.S. has not even been involved with a war authorized by the Constitution since World War II, and even that was a poorly thought out endeavor.

    I feel particularly sorry for those drafted and told either fight to the death for us or we kill you. They had no choice. And that was here in the land of the free. Something to keep in mind on July 4.

    But even those who were not drafted, Pat Tillman, for example, went to war with some sort of emotional drive to serve the country without thinking through if they were, in fact, serving the country. After losing hundreds of thousands to death injuries in Vietnam war, now it is a tourist destination. Exactly what did those casualties do for the U.S.?

    I think Saint-Exupéry, in “Wind, Sand and Stars,” in 1939 explained it well:

    “With more or less awareness, all men feel the need to come alive. But most of the methods suggested for bringing this about are snares and delusions. Men can of course be stirred into life by being dressed up in uniform and made to blare out chants of war. It must be confessed that this is one way for men to break bread with comrades and to find what they are seeking, which is a sense of something universal, of self-fulfilment. But of this bread men die.

    “It is easy to dig up wooden idols and revive ancient and more or less workable myths like Pan-Germanism or the Roman Empire. The Germans can intoxicate themselves with the intoxication of being Germans and compatriots of Beethoven. A stoker in the hold of a freighter can be made drunk with this drink. What is more difficult is to bring up a Beethoven out of the stokehold. These idols, in sum, are carnivorous idols. The man who dies for the progress of science or the healing of the sick serves life in his very dying. It may be glorious to die for the expansion of territory, but modern warfare destroys what it claims to foster. The day is gone when men sent life coursing through the veins of a race by the sacrifice of a little blood. War carried on by gas and bombing is no longer war, it is a kind of bloody surgery.

    “Each side settles down behind a concrete wall and finds nothing better to do than to send forth, night after night, squadrons of planes to bomb the guts of the other side, blow up its factories, paralyze its production, and abolish its trade. Such a war is won by him who rots last but in the end both rot together.

    “In a world become a desert we thirst for comradeship. It is the savor of bread broken with comrades that makes us accept the values of war. But there are other ways than war to bring us the warmth of a race, shoulder to shoulder, towards an identical goal. War has tricked us.”
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    • Posted by $ 8 years, 10 months ago
      I did not at all feel free in the land of the free with the draft hanging over my head during the Vietnam War which I opposed as a useless folly. It finally happened in 1969 and I wound up in the Marines. Fortunately I was not also sent to be possibly killed or maimed for nothing. And I did not feel free until two years later when a taxi carried me out through a gate with an honorable discharge in my luggage.
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    • Posted by Flootus5 8 years, 10 months ago
      Antoine de Saint-Exupery was a talented man. A prolific writer and a pilot. He wrote "Night Flight" which was made into a Clark Gable movie about flying air mail by guiding beacon lights over the Andes and up eastern South America.

      He was shot down in WWII by a German pilot. There is a very nice song written about him called Saint Ex by Widespread Panic:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwM6fmkQuDI&feature=youtu.be

      But of this bread men die. Indeed. Nice post.
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      • Posted by Esceptico 8 years, 10 months ago
        Execllent. My understanding is he took off in the P-38 an never came back, with nobody knowing if it was ground fire, an enemy fighter, or just plain old mechanical problems that put him into the sea. Thank you for this link.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 10 months ago
    The Wounded Warriors Project has a great name. It also has a great commercial with the mellow bass voice of Trace Atkins talking and singing while showing recovering limbless soldiers. Who wouldn't be moved? I have thought about a contribution to them. I will no longer even think about it.
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  • Posted by NealS 8 years, 10 months ago
    I've been back and forth on The Wounded Warrior Project. I've heard and read they do okay and then that it’s really for some executives and their friends. Seems a majority of charities have great staffs with CEO's to run the business and them and their friends can draw some pretty nice salaries. After all you need the talent to pull in the money in any business is the theory. But 50% plus or minus of the proceeds going to the cause doesn't particularly excite me in the least. FOX and many, many, other stations carry a lot of commercials for WWP, almost as many as the commercial for vehicle insurance by the weirdo in the white uniform. I had that insurance a long time ago and dropped them after a dispute. Their advertising budgets have to be tremendous. Could not insurance cost a lot less money without the constant advertising every hour of every day on every station?

    The government, through the VA, helps wounded warriors, but in many cases it is not enough. I was having some issues a few years ago so was advised to go to the VA and sign up on the Agent Orange Registry. That got me a complete physical and psychological evaluation. They found issues but in order to get VA Medical to address them I had to file a claim for service related issues which they determine are disabilities. I got a partial disability rating which gives me a fair monthly tax free income, plus I get VA Medical and drug coverage for a very small co-pay. This is more than enough for most wounded warriors but there are others that need much more. That’s where a real charity can help.

    I believe a charity should be run by a CEO, someone who has already proven their ability to lead and to make money for the organization, someone that has already made their own fortune in a legitimate position and might actually not draw a salary at all, or draw a minimal salary, say one dollar a year. Someone like Mitt Romney, or even the guy with the funny hair that’s running for president now, would make perfect candidates to run a big charity. They could get their rich friends to help with the administration.

    The Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW) buys those little VFW Buddy Poppies out of their own funds, not from the donation money, and offers them to the public a couple times a year. My Post for example pulls in some pretty healthy cash donations which go into a fund that is given out to needy vets and or their families. 100% of the money goes out to help the vets. No one gets a cut, no one gets a wage, the administrators are all (usually vets) volunteers. There are other charities that benefit veterans as well at a low cost for overhead. So I would say when you see someone giving out those poppies, be generous. I was privileged with my daughter to sit in front of a market one Memorial Day and give out those poppies. We did not sell them and anyone that wanted one got one, no donation necessary. It was a great feeling for me when someone came by and stuffed a hundred dollar bill in the can and didn’t even want the poppy. It was a great feeling to see many people putting in 20’s, 10, 5’s, even 1’s, and some kids giving their change. One told me that I shouldn’t be thanking him as he thanked me while stuffing the can. I know where my donations will go in their entirety to the cause. The VFW helps local veterans directly as well, no overhead. There are others that are way above the fifty percent's.

    If we can get a new definition for marriage, I’m sure we should be able to redefine charity too. Personally I just don’t think 50% qualifies as a charity. Gotta go, going to the 4th of July Parade in Kirkland, WA in a couple hours. And yesterday the pipe between the house and the street broke, so no water in the house. It will be Monday before it can be replaced. Why does this always happen on a Friday, and usually on a Friday before a holiday?
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    • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 10 months ago
      "Why does this always happen on a Friday, and usually on a Friday before a holiday? "

      Because the universe is secretly inimical. Think about it: black holes, relativity and quantum tunneling? Who thought up this crazy place?

      Jan
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  • Posted by $ number6 8 years, 10 months ago
    They spend money suing people who criticize them.

    They are currently sitting in almost $250,000,000 in assets (donation siting that are not being used) and in the last reporting year they have an excess of $100,000,000 in money they raised versus what went to "projects".
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  • Posted by UncommonSense 8 years, 10 months ago
    Also, the WW project is also anti-gun ownership. I stopped supporting them when I found out about this 2 years ago. Very sad for the true heroes...
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    • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 10 months ago
      What's one got to do with the other? Just cause I have real purple heart and did my entire tour of duty regardless of how many and have a V Device or Two doesn't take away my right to think independently and draw my own conclusions. None of that collectivist speaking for others thank you not very much. I don't go to Red Lobster or the Italian place they also own for the same reason. It's also one of the main reasons why I don't support Democrats or Republicans.
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  • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 8 years, 10 months ago
    This organization is also anti firearms. In know this first hand because of where my husband works. The company was going to donate a substantial amount of money, but WWP wouldn't accept it because it was coming from a firearms manufacturer. (Also, the Susan G. Komen breast cancer foundation wouldn't take a donation for the same reason. I have stopped giving them money, because I own firearms. They think that some women who get breast cancer don't shoot?!?).
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  • Posted by ProfChuck 8 years, 10 months ago
    My dad was a troop carrier pilot in WWII and saw a lot of front line duty. He said that the only charity he would consider giving to was the Salvation army. They were always as close as possible to the fighting and never asked the soldiers to pay for anything. They are a class act.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 8 years, 10 months ago
    Thank You, Allo, for the help, here!!! . I have been supporting

    Gary Sinise;;; where can we get data for Gary? -- j

    p.s. OK. . I just joined charity navigator and got access

    to Gary's foundation's IRS forms. . after accounting for the

    fact that they list the building of special homes for wounded

    vets as "expenses," he's spending more than 64 percent on

    the vets. . the Lieutenant Dan Band is in there for expenses,

    but I couldn't pull it out. . I will write them.

    p.p.s. another to which I donate is Mission of Hope, for children

    in appalachia. . their percentage is 92 percent. . WoW.

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  • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 10 months ago
    I knew a musician who was raised in the Church of the Salvation Army. He had a lot to say about their religious conditioning; none of it was good.

    I think the Salvation Army is a lot better from the outside than from the inside.

    Jan
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 10 months ago
    Please, dear Allosaur, don't take this the wrong way, but you inadvertently gave me a good guffaw when you caused a couple of weird pictures to pop into my head. "The CEO makes $300,000 anally." I pictured him leaning over a spacious desk as his secretary shoved money up his butt. Then, in the article, there was a references to the "vase majority." How many vases in a majority? One needs to ponder.
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    • Posted by $ 8 years, 10 months ago
      Shucks. I almost wrote "a year" instead of anally spelling annually in a way the spell checker could not catch. Recall once writing martial when I meant to write marital and it went public in a newspaper back in the 70s. I just had a mechanical typewriter back then.
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      • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 10 months ago
        I've pulled stuff like that all my life, which is probably why I'm so aware of it when others do it.But all of this reminds me of when I was 6 years old and in the 1st grade. When I was 4 or 5, my mom and I would sit side by side on the living room couch with a book between us. Usually a large print children's book. As she read the story to me, she would point to the words which I saw upside down. In the 1st grade the teacher asked each of us to read a sentence in the primer once we had been taught our letters and how they were made into words. The sentences were very short such as "Sam can run. See Sam run." When it was my turn I turned the book upside down and read the whole story. The teacher would turn the book rightside up, and I would promptly turn it upside down again. My mom didn't realize that she was teaching me how to read upside down. The poor teacher tried to correct me, but I think she gave up and put me down as retarded (the word for it then) which was easier on her than trying to spend a lot of time with me.
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        • Posted by johnpe1 8 years, 10 months ago
          and I had to learn to read upside down when working

          as a certified manager teacher for NMA -- the National

          Management Association. . it was a second language!!! -- j

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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 10 months ago
    WW comes down to my area south of the border bringing disabled vets for the offshore fishing. I can tell you there is a lot of donating that doesn't involve cash as a result of all they do. When you are forgotten by country and government...Not all of us take that paper or plastic have a nice day thanks for serving your country as a compliment. We served the Constitution. There is a difference. More than I can say for those who didn't serve. I have had people say that line and add ''sorry we didn't do a better job back home.'' or something similar

    I guess those 60,000 or so names will stay buried. Now that was an insult. Topped only by dumping the bill of rights and the rest of it.

    Not all....certainly...but for many...you aren't welcome.,

    Vets take care of vets. I can only hope vets will reinstate the Constitution along with the active duty mililtary.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 10 months ago
    Well....that's 48% that did go to veterans projects which puts them ahead of the government. Looking back on 27 years of retirement I can't think of any part of it that wasn't reneged on in one way or the other . Any cite for the $300,000 ''somewhere" is a little bit hard to Google?
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    • Posted by $ 8 years, 10 months ago
      Wish I could remember where I read that. That $300,000 pretty well lodged into my memory banks for really rubbing me the wrong way.
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      • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 10 months ago
        In the meantime I'll go with their charity navigator rating and put the other down to the anti-military veterans at worst or urban myth rumor at best. No doubt the new Attorney General will be on it like white on rice.
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        • Posted by $ 8 years, 10 months ago
          I Binged that sucker! (See the writer's name and face).

          CEO made $475,015 in 2014 due to a $100,000 raise.

          http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/06/08/vet-charity-s-new-fight-to-waste-your-cash.html
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          • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 10 months ago
            Now that's what I'm talking about. Not this somewhere stuff. That makes it $300,000 after taxes. Was there compensation for expenses, travel and such? That would make another differnce. Also since I never heard of the Beast Blog what are their bona fides? Like I said expec tthe Attorney General to jump right on this.
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            • Posted by $ 8 years, 10 months ago
              I like it when I can find proof of a partially-remembered something that also proves my credibility.
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              • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 10 months ago
                Thanks for the effort. I learned to do a lot of fact checking and the absence of information is always a red flag. Or the refusal to deal with facts instead wishful thinking based on falsehoods. The recent thread on Supreme Court Orders States to Allow Gay Marriage was a good example as was the Haller vs. DC Court decision on second amendment. So asking for that sort of thing is getting to be a habit AS WAS getting caught myself on the six month and one day to make common law legal. I'm working on the last part of the Two Party System's journey from 1776 to 2015 and that was a shocker in many instances. I reckon 50% of what I learned in high school no matter how superior it was to todays schools was suspect if not down right BS. (In the History Section for those interested. That and a few others didn't make the cut for here on the front page but it's good references. though I'm hoping the tax per mile post will see the light of day. Thanks again
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  • Posted by $ DriveTrain 8 years, 10 months ago
    I'm not big on giving money to charities that don't get results. Which means that alongside the two warring O-people camps (I donate to both monthly,) I give money regularly to the Second Amendment Foundation in Bellevue, WA - http://www.saf.org/

    The only veterans' group I donate to regularly is the Gary Sinise Foundation. 'Don't know what percentage of donations get through to vets, but I'm thinking that as a successful actor Mr. Sinise isn't a likely scammer, and in addition to being a genuinely nice guy, he plays a mean bass. 8^] He's also got some nice SWAG, proceeds from which also go to his Foundation:
    http://www.garysinisefoundation.org/
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 10 months ago
    Another side of the coin. Be it charity or retirement funds the best do not work for peanuts. But the best forsee episodes like the Government bankruptcy crash of 2008 and the resulting loss of thirty percent or more buying power to name one example or getting out of real estate before the government mandated housing program did that in or the government causing the small banks forced into their housing program to fail and go under. Some of us saw it in 2006 and skipped with whatever we had while the skipping was good. Some did not. The people who run union and public employees retirement funds for example routinely make one million plus and are worth every penny. The funds that get second or third tier fund managers get in trouble. Not to say that applies to WWP but it something to consider when looking at a whole picture. Given inflation, devaluation and debt repudiation followed by the inevitable raise in taxes in the next two years...or look at this way. Whatever your program. If you didn't fail to plan you certainly didn't plan to fail. Take your worst case situation and multiply by four if you are middle age and more if your are in your twenties.If your in a union plan of any kind you might want to increase that if their fund managers are working for cheap charley salaries - or worse are union officials. Private or Public Employees..

    If you remember Hazlitt's Broken Window analogy apply that to ethanol. Sure the new engines are supposedly built to handle it but the old ones can't and are being destroyed before their time. Which means a new car or a new engine. When you could have spent the money on something else or kept it in your retirement fund. Doesn't matter who throws the brick the window is broken and you have to spend after tax dollars to replace it.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 10 months ago
    So why stop there? It's a piker operation compared just one of the protection rackets run by the will not lie, cheat, steal nor tolerate those who do in the military. Voluntary Mandatory payroll deduction buying four US Savings Bonds a year or. no promotions, no schools, no good assignments and all manner of extra time on duty rosters quietly meted out to every one in the military under the rule...stuff rolls down hill and you are at the bottom of the hill. Other than the first word that was the explanation given by aa Sergeant "Major for the military's support of that program and others including United Way or Fund with it's fair share coerced donations.

    right out in the open with 100% signs on the company and battalion lawns.

    Add to that Army Emergency Relief and the umit's pet civic action projects it took a chunk of change out of our income. It's got to be a billion dollar a year racket with current pay scales.

    Does anyone give a stuff?

    No evidence of that.
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  • Posted by BlackBeaver 8 years, 10 months ago
    A good place to check on charities before you decide is http://www.charitynavigator.org/

    According to their information, the expenses breakdown for Wounded Warrior Project is 34% fundraising, 6.1% Administrative, leaving 59.9% for Program Expenses.

    Contrast that with Disabled American Veterans Charitable Service Trust, which spends 96.5% for Program Expenses. See http://cst.dav.org/

    You might also consider Special Operations Warrior Foundation, a charity providing support and assistance to active and reserve personnel serving in the U.S. Special Operations Command and their families. It has Program Expenses of 85.4%. See http://www.specialops.org/

    Giving to a charity where 85 to 97 cents of every dollar I donate goes to those in need makes more sense to me than giving to the highly touted Wounded Warrior Project....
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