Check your carry ammo!

Posted by $ WillH 10 years, 4 months ago to Technology
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I found this today during my normal carry ammo rotation. Both are the exact same round from the exact same box. Bullet set back can cause an overpressure situation real quick, and could destroy a weapon or cause great injury. Yes, I will be complaining to Hornady about it, but I thought you all would like to know. Make sure to check and rotate your carry ammo!

The set back round has only been chambered 4 times in a Ruger SR9c


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  • Posted by $ 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That makes perfect sense, and also brings up another point. No one should ever purchase ammo in a baggie. Locally we had a Ruger P95 blow up at a range while firing that stuff. No doubt it was crappy handloads passed off as factory ammo. One should only fire properly labeled factory ammo, your own reloads, or reloads of someone you trust. Something is seriously wrong when a round is so strong it blows up a Ruger.
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  • Posted by $ 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You have a point, but at the same time my concern is more to the point of being better able to defend my family from the common criminal. The firearm that I CC and the firearm used for defense of my home are both purchased from established gun stores. I do not want legal questions raised should I have to use them.

    That said any other firearms I may have purchased from private individuals in my home or in other places along with any stockpiles of ammunition I may or may not have at home or buried somewhere else are a matter of pure speculation.
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  • Posted by $ stargeezer 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I have bought an shot surplus ammo dated 20+ years old. Mil sup smokeless powder ammo is generally sealed at both primers and bullet seams and has a much greater life span. I dot not worry about shooting good ammo that's got a production date a couple years out. BUT not the white box stuff and not somebodies basement reloads sold at a gunshow in a baggy. You have to wonder, if their best effort is only good enough for a Ziploc, is it good enough for my $1000 handgun or $3500 rifle? I don't think so.

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  • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree that they will. I don't doubt it for a second. I just want to be ready for any other contingency.

    My apologies for a bit of ire.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That was probably too flippant, but I'm serious about the pepper spray. I travel for business quite extensively and one of the first purchases that I make at a new location is a can of pepper spray. I try to stay at the same hotel for however long I will be on that assignment, and then store various things that I don't like to carry back/forth - shaving kit, extra shoes, etc. Also the can of pepper spray. When I finally depart, since I can't take it back on the plane I usually donate the canister to a gal at the front desk of the hotel or a restaurant that I frequent so that they have some means of protection.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Sorry about what happened to your mom.
    I don't disparage anyone who chooses to cc. I merely choose not to in order not to have to alert the government that I may own a handgun. Just another avenue that will be used to round up the weapons when they come for them (and they will).
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  • Posted by $ 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I just happen to be spending tonight in my reloading room, so I just weighed all 11 setbacks, and they weigh as much as the rest of the box. I pulled one down, and there was powder in it. I really believe the problem is lack of crimp.

    You are braver than I am. I do not train doubletaps with Winchester White Box or Wal-Mart Federal. I only train like that with my own reloaded rounds. That way I know they are 100% reliable.
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 10 years, 4 months ago
    Question - did you weigh the setback? I wonder if it was a compression load or a squib load... Reason I mention...

    I usually buy white box FMJ cheapos for range practice - I got one that was set back about as bad as this one. Took it to the range boss, who told me "Why worry about it - it'll probably go bang". I gave him the "You gotta be f'n kidding me" look, and he then replaced it. Now, I didn't find any more setbacks in the 4 boxes I burned through, but... there was one squib toward the end of the set. Lucky for me it was #2 of two taps... I rather like my face and fingers where they are.
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  • Posted by Retired24-navy 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I was a gunners mate on several ships, and it was our directive not to keep fixed ammo more than 12 months. I rotate my ammo more often as I go to the range usually monthly and always use the oldest ammo first. Most of the modern ammo can be safely stored for a couple of years. The old black powder ammo starts to degrade within 12 months. Hope this helps.
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Getting the bullet jump correct on a rifle cartridge is the main reason good handloaded ammo is more accurate than factory. The Factory sets the bullet back a little further than is best because the cartridge is use in who knows what sort of rifle. The last thing the factory wants is to have a rifle blow up and having the bullet forced in to the end of the rifling in the forcing cone area is a way to get chamber pressures higher. If you are loading for a specific rifle you can get it set way out there but just short of the rifling. This makes for the shortest bullet jump and the best accuracy. To find the back extent of the rifling you set a bullet out a little too far and smoke the bullet with a sight blacking carbide lamp. You can really see the forcing cone [end of the rifling] that way. You then wipe the bullet off and re-seat a little lower until you get the seating die just right, which you can see when you put the smoked bullet in and you don't get rifling marks on it. I figure this alone is worth at a minimum .3 to .5 minutes of the angle in accuracy
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I certainly don't cc. That would require indicating to the government that I might actually have a weapon. All mine are private purchase and all ammo is done by cash.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Point for Heinlein quote.

    Me, I want a bullet that hits my target, transfers the energy to the target, and stops about halfway through the target.
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