This seriously misguided author has 8.5k FB likes. He is taking on the novel one chapter at a time. Please consider commenting. My husband is in the fray :)
Sounds like a wannabe Leninist trying desparately to make a name for itself... by denegrating the truth.
Add to this, coming from a site called "Daily Athiesm"... Yeah, my money is on a socialist "Born-Again Athiest" - they who believe that only their beliefs are right, and everyone should believe (or wouuld it be non-believe??) just like they do.
Bleah. Sheeple socialists following Sheeple Marxists down the primrose path of doom by espousing blatant nonsense as truth. Why is it I'm not surprised?
You can see my efforts on behalf of Rand and science. What a merry chase of fallacies they run. : )
I've bowed out now that the cowardly mods there are refusing to put up any of my answers. Nice way to make it look as if the cat got my tongue. Anyway, it all got repetitive. Pedantic negativity is not a formula for accuracy.
they didn't post ours either. here's what we said:
"Yep, and the scary thing is that Rand doesn't seem to believe there's anything implausible or inherently fictional about her world at all. From what I can gather, she really does think that capitalism could triumph over the laws of physics, if only the government and its regulations would get out of the way." the scary thing is you don't understand the laws of physics. there is nothing incompatible with physics and capitalism. what you really want to push are your tender environmentalist feelings which completely ignore the 2nd law of thermodynamics-namely the universe therefore the earth is not a closed system. 100 years ago, oil fouled farm fields. 50 years ago natural gas was a noxious byproduct of refining. Now it's one of our major energy sources. No need for whale oil! Man's ultimate resource is his mind. Capitalism is the ONLY system that values the products of the mind.
there is a lot of theory on closed universes or "limited" universes. that is not the present thinking in Physics(asked the husband). The present thinking in Physics is about the "observable" universe. and there is no reason to believe that there is NOT something beyond the observable.
It seems safe to say that AS has sold between 6,000,000 and 7,000,000 copies and possibly more. Why squander limited time on moral defectives like this fellow?
you are not writing for the author, you are putting out info for the one whose mind is not fixed. as many scientific minds have said-you are not trying to win this generation-but the next
When I read it earlier and then some of comments, I was immediately exhausted by the energy being wasted on the mis-understandings and attempts to explain what they don't understand, but think they do. I couldn't leave fast enough.
Of course. That's how philosophical debate works. If you claim to be a philosopher, you can't expect people to just accept the theories you propose without question. An attempt to disprove the theories must be made first before they can be accepted.
I believe Dr. Simon Pritchett would disagree with you...lol. It was a bit over 37 years ago that my philosophy professor unlocked the mystery of philosophy. I was one of 14 students in the senior-level class, 12 were philosophy/theology majors. I never worked so hard for a B in my life!
As he put it, "With philosophy, it's not what you say, it's how you say it. Never forget that philosophy's nothing but a bunch of BS."
Every week, we had a two-page (typed) book report, which we then read and discussed in class. At first, I felt like a fish out of water, but learned how to hold my own as the semester progressed.
Not surprisingly, this was on an atheist blog. Those are a rich source of attacks on Rand and on libertarians. That might seem strange at first, but if you dig into most of them you'll find that their primary focus is left-wing collectivism.
The linked article mentioned PZ Myers. His Pharyngula blog is a prime example of what I'm talking about.
I think it makes sense businesses move to less free States. It's easier for them to get special favors from the government. Of course they'll move to a state where they don't have to build their own roads, or train their own employees, and on top of it receive tax payer subsidies just for being there. It's screwing over the individuals. It's also unsustainable in the long run. Those states will tax the populace so much that they won't be able to afford what the state is producing. Plus the companies know they can charge higher prices in states where the individual has more money, giving the company incentive to export the majority of what it produces.
Of course business moves to the less free area, their going to milk it and move on.
Scott Walker has not learned the Broken Window Fallacy: a company hq'd in another state can move to Wisc to get two years tax credit on corporate income tax.
No. That’s a bad idea and I’ll give you good reasons.
1. The last time you sent me out into the cyber-heavens to mount a crusade the little minions followed me back.
2. Your husband is quite capable of speaking for himself. I’ve read that with my own eyes.
3. 8.5k does not meet credibility level on Facebook. Smile. They are barely likable. If they ever cross the ten-thousand fan level, then, let’s talk. But for now...you probably got a bunch of activist atheists who are bored to death on the days when he wants to attack Ayn Rand. I know a group on Facebook-- the GOP stoppers that have tens of thousands of fans and most ‘rational’ people have never heard of them. (They do come up with some side-splitting memes.)
How is your husband involved? You can PM me if you prefer not to go into detail on the open board.
not. just has a disqus. I found a link through slug taggart on FB to Michael atlasmovie Brown. went in and when Rand was accused of violating physics with capitalism....well, had to say stuff
Adam Lee's critique of Ayn's novel is akin to the treatment that the Fair tax gets from the media and the power hungry politicians. When Joe Six Pack figures it out what the Fair Tax can do for him America will become Galt's Gulch.
How nice of the author to own the site and moderate it, too. You think ANY contrary opinions will be posted? If any "plusaf" comments show up, please let me know.
If you censor all disagreement, it's easy to make it look like "the consensus" is supporting your side.
Adam Lee is making a common mistake: that of confusing correlation with causation. "The answer, as much as Rand and her acolytes might not want to hear it, is that most businesses actually prefer to settle where the government provides services."
Actually, the reason that businesses sprout in CA and NY is that there are people there...and few businessmen spring full-fledged from the womb. Generally, we work for someone else for a while and then start our own business. There are more people in CA (where I am), hence more business begin here.
And why stay? Because we are already here, have employees, have bought offices, have friends. There has to be a compelling reason to move; taxation and regulation is giving us a reason to do so. But one needs to move to a place that is enough better to justify the business disruption - and no state is insulated from the new federal regulations.
People - and businesses - are moving out of CA and NY. (People as a whole are moving South in the US.) The 'services the government provides' that aid a business are rather basic; all states have them. The need to support a large non-working population is a side effect of the fluctuations in job opportunities (and of course they vote themselves an income).
So, business do not deliberately choose a start-up site where there is a heavy government burden. Businesses start where there are more jobs, which attract more people, who start more businesses...and then do not want to move away from their friends and homes.
Add to this, coming from a site called "Daily Athiesm"... Yeah, my money is on a socialist "Born-Again Athiest" - they who believe that only their beliefs are right, and everyone should believe (or wouuld it be non-believe??) just like they do.
Bleah. Sheeple socialists following Sheeple Marxists down the primrose path of doom by espousing blatant nonsense as truth. Why is it I'm not surprised?
I've bowed out now that the cowardly mods there are refusing to put up any of my answers. Nice way to make it look as if the cat got my tongue. Anyway, it all got repetitive. Pedantic negativity is not a formula for accuracy.
"Yep, and the scary thing is that Rand doesn't seem to believe there's anything implausible or inherently fictional about her world at all. From what I can gather, she really does think that capitalism could triumph over the laws of physics, if only the government and its regulations would get out of the way."
the scary thing is you don't understand the laws of physics. there is nothing incompatible with physics and capitalism. what you really want to push are your tender environmentalist feelings which completely ignore the 2nd law of thermodynamics-namely the universe therefore the earth is not a closed system.
100 years ago, oil fouled farm fields. 50 years ago natural gas was a noxious byproduct of refining. Now it's one of our major energy sources. No need for whale oil! Man's ultimate resource is his mind. Capitalism is the ONLY system that values the products of the mind.
Actually, by definition, the universe *is* a closed system. But it's a really really BIG closed system.
The present thinking in Physics is about the "observable" universe. and there is no reason to believe that there is NOT something beyond the observable.
Post when you take these on fugue. I find them fun
It was a bit over 37 years ago that my philosophy professor unlocked the mystery of philosophy. I was one of 14 students in the senior-level class, 12 were philosophy/theology majors. I never worked so hard for a B in my life!
As he put it, "With philosophy, it's not what you say, it's how you say it. Never forget that philosophy's nothing but a bunch of BS."
Every week, we had a two-page (typed) book report, which we then read and discussed in class. At first, I felt like a fish out of water, but learned how to hold my own as the semester progressed.
The linked article mentioned PZ Myers. His Pharyngula blog is a prime example of what I'm talking about.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2...
and
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2...
I think it makes sense businesses move to less free States. It's easier for them to get special favors from the government. Of course they'll move to a state where they don't have to build their own roads, or train their own employees, and on top of it receive tax payer subsidies just for being there. It's screwing over the individuals. It's also unsustainable in the long run. Those states will tax the populace so much that they won't be able to afford what the state is producing. Plus the companies know they can charge higher prices in states where the individual has more money, giving the company incentive to export the majority of what it produces.
Of course business moves to the less free area, their going to milk it and move on.
Productive New Year to You!
1. The last time you sent me out into the cyber-heavens to mount a crusade the little minions followed me back.
2. Your husband is quite capable of speaking for himself. I’ve read that with my own eyes.
3. 8.5k does not meet credibility level on Facebook. Smile. They are barely likable. If they ever cross the ten-thousand fan level, then, let’s talk. But for now...you probably got a bunch of activist atheists who are bored to death on the days when he wants to attack Ayn Rand.
I know a group on Facebook-- the GOP stoppers that have tens of thousands of fans and most ‘rational’ people have never heard of them. (They do come up with some side-splitting memes.)
How is your husband involved? You can PM me if you prefer not to go into detail on the open board.
If you censor all disagreement, it's easy to make it look like "the consensus" is supporting your side.
How sick.
Actually, the reason that businesses sprout in CA and NY is that there are people there...and few businessmen spring full-fledged from the womb. Generally, we work for someone else for a while and then start our own business. There are more people in CA (where I am), hence more business begin here.
And why stay? Because we are already here, have employees, have bought offices, have friends. There has to be a compelling reason to move; taxation and regulation is giving us a reason to do so. But one needs to move to a place that is enough better to justify the business disruption - and no state is insulated from the new federal regulations.
People - and businesses - are moving out of CA and NY. (People as a whole are moving South in the US.) The 'services the government provides' that aid a business are rather basic; all states have them. The need to support a large non-working population is a side effect of the fluctuations in job opportunities (and of course they vote themselves an income).
So, business do not deliberately choose a start-up site where there is a heavy government burden. Businesses start where there are more jobs, which attract more people, who start more businesses...and then do not want to move away from their friends and homes.
Jan