Along with the "race" card, and any other "card" they can come up with to avoid having facts to back their faux discussion/diatribe.

Any time when they say something like "we deserve it", such as acceding to the demands of blacks wanting reparations, or even justifying the actions of the 9/11 hijackers.

The Saiga 12 is a pretty nice shotgun, although it's pretty pricey around here due to shortages. I've got one that's pretty dressed up and it's had the trigger pack relocated back to the original place. The other one I've got is all stock. The way charter arms imported them.

I prefer the AK47 location for fast action. If you are handy with tools and have a Tig welder you can buy a $40 kit and do the conversion yourself or a gunsmith will charge around $250-$300 for the job.

Either way, they are great fun and a super good weapon for close in work.

that too!
:)

Interesting. I'll do some digging too - the Old Man could probably teach an intermediate-level college history course on the Civil War, maybe he knows something.

If I find anything I'll post it here.

Animal; Haven't found the author yet, still searching. Might not have even been German, but here's the quote. I like it so I hope it holds up.

"The author was a member of a group of foreign officers that had witnessed the bloody fighting at Gettysburg. Upon writing home one officer warned his government:
“We must never fight these American’s for they fight without any regard to pain or
death. Honor and victory are their only battle cries. I have seen whole regiments laid to waste only to see men from both sides readily step up to the battle line. An
outside invader could never stand against such madmen.”"

This is exactly the same principle as most gun laws. When I drive by someone who is texting and driving, it reminds me of watching someone who is playing at the gun range shooting tin cans off his kid's head. Society deals with these two situations in different ways, it seems.

Oh yeah, here in NH it is illegal to text while driving, unless you are a cop. Tell me what message that sends!

Stargeezer: Yeah that humping stuff is just not me anymore.

:)... you mean, like, don't drive? :)

I'd have trouble deciding between a AR and a M14. It would depend on target, terrain and if I were humping it all day over field and mountain or is it riding in my truck. Long or short range, bush or Forrest.

100% facts. Good job Stormi.

The left is full of contradictions. They say we must protect eagles, yet when the green energy agenda needs a boost, they say go, put in wind turbines, and forget they may wipe out those eagles.
They liberals say we must leave the forest floor (ripe for fires) untouched, yet say nothing when HAARP continues to heat the ionosphere and change climate in unpredictable ways (and at what cost to taxpayers). The left tells us we must save energy and the environment with Mercury filled bulbs, but fail to mention they emit several other gases, are bad for humans and will cost a fortune to recycle as soon as everyone is stuck with using them. They did not even view the German study warning of the health dangers.
Liberals pushed for easy mortgages, even when it led to financial disaster, yet at the same time support UN Agenda 21, which would do away with private property rights and the right to own a home, when fully implemented.
Actors push for "green" homes for New Orleans residents, but then live in big mansions and use jet fuel for no other reason that to fly in special caviar for their enjoyment - not exactly green.
The Prez and politicians are protected by armies of armed guards, yet would legislate away the right of citizens to own guns to protect themselves.
The D.C. crowd carry on about first global warming, which fizzled and became "climate change", yet the Prez uses HAMP to change conditions (ask Christie about that one) and Pelosi had no problem filling the skies with pollution when she took two jets to Calif. when she was Speaker. Do as we say, not as we do.
The D.C. bunch tell us to drive fuel efficient cars, while they take limos.
Actually, the list is endless, and it shows that the left is both stupid and underestimates the intelligence of others.

no laws needed to enforce reason ability. you drive-enforce safety belts in your vehicle. no police needed

and I've thought for a long time that the "incentive" and repercussions aspect would work much better than any "government mandate or restrictions:"

Just let the insurance companies add a clause or two that says that if you're texting while driving or are not wearing your seatbelt in an accident, some or all of your insurance coverage is forfeit.

Works for me... I love my seat belts!
Oh, and btw, do you know why it's as important that your back-seat passengers wear theirs? Y'see, if you're driving and hit something hard, your seat belt and air bags may save your life, but if the passenger sitting BEHIND you (or behind the future victim next to you up front) is NOT wearing their seat belt, they will smash into the BACK of your seat and essentially crush your chest with YOUR seatbelt. Low survivability.
Think about it.

and they seem to always play the "anarchy card" into any discussion they're losing.. :)

I've been thinking about this again. I'm going to have to send you a message in the next few days.

Have you a name for this German general? I'm a pretty big Civil War buff and I don't recall that incident.