My Political Compass Test Result
Posted by RogerMalcolm 10 years, 4 months ago to Philosophy
Would anyone like to debate where Ayn Rand would fall on this? I have found a couple examples placing her at the center of the Libertarian/Right and another placing her more so at the farthest point of the Libertarian/Right.
As well, I would encourage a discussion on the understanding of Ayn's view on Libertarians as in comparison to Objectivism and I do wish to know anyone's understanding of romantic realism to a deeper degree. The latter perhaps deserves it's own post.
As well, I would encourage a discussion on the understanding of Ayn's view on Libertarians as in comparison to Objectivism and I do wish to know anyone's understanding of romantic realism to a deeper degree. The latter perhaps deserves it's own post.
If political tests are interesting to you, the one created by Pew Research probably yields more accurate results:
http://www.people-press.org/typology/qui...
The rest is, as Rabbi Hillel wrote, commentary.
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My son and I have this philosophical conversation alot. It's an important one. Consider reading David Kelley's excellent paper on Hayek vs rand. happy to discuss it with you if you're interested!
http://www.atlassociety.org/hayek-ayn-ra...
this is on epistemology, but he takes it all the way up through political/economic freedom. What we're getting to here is a discussion on the limits of reason.
Rand complained that the LP "stole my ideas without giving me credit." If you can find a copy of Hospers' campaign book, "Libertarianism", you can evaluate that claim by counting the footnotes which cite Rand's books. It's been awhile since I did that count; I don't think it *quite* reached four figures. . .
Would it be honest for this person to copy something you have designed, invented, composed or written, and claim it as their own, or,
to acknowledge the source but use it for their own purposes and gain without permission?
If they act out of mistaken belief is it then ok?
Going further than your example, if this person had a slave, some presumption of force can be assumed -so not 'peaceful'. Or if they stole from others, again not honest, then, are you entitled to use force to protect or recompense the victim? Under objectivism, there may be no obligation, but may you? May force be used to protect property or to recover stolen property? Does you answer depend on whether it is yours or another's property?
Both of the latter authoritarian constructs are based on a two-class society of the elite and the commoners. We are gravitating toward the "bread and circuses" model here in the U.S., with the idea of a common level of just enough material wealth to keep people satisfied just enough to tolerate obedience to an elitist-controlled central authority.
Objectivism is in another dimension, based on a society of worth, where one's freedom and material wealth is whatever you're willing to make the effort to achieve. This is entirely different from the authoritarian-anarchist spectrum, which is based on a model of state power.
"Reason is the faculty that identifies and integrates the material provided by man’s senses." (in “The Objectivist Ethics,” in The Virtue of Selfishness) "Reason integrates man’s perceptions by means of forming abstractions or conceptions, thus raising man’s knowledge from the perceptual level, which he shares with animals, to the conceptual level, which he alone can reach. The method which reason employs in this process is logic—and logic is the art of non-contradictory identification." (in “Faith and Force: The Destroyers of the Modern World,” in Philosophy: Who Needs It).
Ayn Rand goes into far more detail in "Introduction to the Objectivist Epistemology."
(Also, you may need new friends.)
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