TSA can't do the security job

Posted by johnpe1 9 years ago to Government
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as usual, the bureaucracy is poor at threat detection.
is this another post office? -- j
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  • Posted by 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    a friend of 45 years and I worked on the book.
    it's pretty good, though it includes some science
    fiction and some social fiction!!! -- j
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  • Posted by teri-amborn 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Strangely, I have been saying that for years now.😉
    Thank you for the encouraging words.
    I like how you think.
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  • Posted by Technocracy 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I would issue stun guns to every other passenger.

    It would prevent hijackings and improve manners on the plane in one shot.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I guess I was thinking of "profiling" using the more generic PC term which focuses on ethnicity. My apologies if you meant it in a more tactical sense.

    I completely agree that we should also be using what works. My only supposition is that the TSA is infatuated with lots of cool tech and stupid people instead of just using smart people. That would kind of fit how government operates...
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Isn't studying body language and tells a form of profiling? Either way, whatever you call it -- it works. Why can't we use that example and train our people in a method that actually works?
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    It really isn't near as much about profiling as studying body language and looking for tells. Those people are even faster at getting people through security than all the gizmos employed by TSA and far more effective - not a single terrorist has ever gotten on a plane flown out of Tel Aviv.
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  • Posted by waytodude 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    That's why I put in my statement can they handle it. I know most here could go along way in fixing government however a complete overhaul which the establishment would not allow. I was only giving an example of how this one part of our current system could be repaired.

    I do agree with your view on why my idea wouldn't work.

    Wonder if I will see a time when greater minds will prevail and America becomes what it once was.
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  • Posted by teri-amborn 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    The difference between industry and government is the difference between food and poison.
    The goal of industry is to produce efficiently and create time hence profits.
    The goal of government is to waste as many resources as possible including time and to annihilate efficiency and competency whenever they see it SO THAT there is more "funding" next year because the manager has shown a "need".
    Production vs. thievery....that's why government can't do anything correctly. It would be self-destructive.
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  • Posted by 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    now, that's clever -- a gun which fires once and
    destroys itself in the process. . this could be a
    new industry in itself!!! -- j
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  • Posted by wiggys 9 years ago
    yes it is another post office, however you can list just about every government organization there is.
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  • Posted by Eyecu2 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    My thoughts exactly or frangibles. Something like this:
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenber...

    That way it is cheap and easily replaceable; yet at the same time deadly enough that no one would be willing to get stupid while on the plane.

    Yes we would have the occasional idiots getting into an argument issue but things would flow faster, cheaper and more importantly we would have the ability to defend ourselves. Maybe only scan to make certain that no one is wearing body amour...LOL
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  • Posted by $ jdg 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    That would work, but I'd load them with Glaser rounds. Less likely to hurt the plane that way.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 9 years ago
    The only real threat to our security is the state itself. TSA needs to be abolished yesterday and not replaced with anything.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years ago
    We have looters and moochers, witch doctors and war lords. Now add something new to the list referred to by Rand but I don't think named.

    Grubbers. The nasty little grubs that root around doing the bidding of whomever. Some call them apparatchiks, some fellow travelers, some bureaucrats. I'm proposing grubs or grubbers.The one's that serve the party - and themselves.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I have no doubt that it is possible, just that ISO 9001 by itself is inadequate. Also agree that a government agency is unlikely to perform to an objective beyond next year's funding.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    It is so interesting that people supporting the socialist progressives do not associate the behavior of the TSA (or other agencies) to government, and continue to support more power to the government. The biggest lie of the progressives is that they can fix it with more government.

    The feature people find so abhorrent in capitalists is so controllable to reach an objective it is like fish in a barrel. However, these people don't want to leverage this powerful, inherent force to achieve a goal. They prefer to design a Rube Goldberg government contraption.

    One approach I use with people I'm arguing with to get them to come around is to ask if they prefer sail boats or motor boats. (Typically you can tell the bias). When they say sail boats, I ask them why they then chose to apply motorboat features to government, rather than just leveraging the wind. This often precipitates an interesting discussion.
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  • Posted by waytodude 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    In getting a company in compliance I've personally seen that setting up standards and showing evidence that said standards are met and or exceeded in PM and QC in manufacturing environments which in turn could be translated into other environments. If one sets standards and proves they are done success can be achieved. But this is government work to me the question should be can they handle it.
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