Facing $1 billion deficit, Arizona sharply limits welfare

Posted by $ AJAshinoff 8 years, 11 months ago to Government
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A good start, although I think its a bit too low a term to be practical.
SOURCE URL: http://www.fox10phoenix.com/story/29099399/facing-1-billion-deficit-arizona-sharply-limits-welfare


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  • Posted by mspalding 8 years, 11 months ago
    They should pair this with an elimination of the minimum wage. Without a minimum wage, even folks who aren't skilled and have other issues can get a job.
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  • Posted by AmericanGreatness 8 years, 11 months ago
    Well done Arizona! If only we could get the rest of the country to follow suit. Before welfare, we didn't have people dropping dead in the streets of starvation. People took whatever job they had to to put food on the table.

    And, exactly what "disability" does Ms. Lopez have? She's a great example of the entitlement mentality. She thinks she's entitled to the work of others for what reason???
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    • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 11 months ago
      My reaction as well. I have known people with little education who are very self-sufficient. And I know a man who has dyslexia who has written two books.

      Jan
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 8 years, 11 months ago
    Time for all the Socialist's non-profits to step up.

    Just love how people taking other people's money want to be treated with special respect, not have to admit they need someone else's support, generally due to their bad decisions.
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  • Posted by $ Snezzy 8 years, 11 months ago
    I'd hire one of those down-and-out people to help here on the farm, and would make the person productive... except we've tried it and it's essentially impossible.

    Why? The ones we've invited in have been thieves. And of course we can't pay them except under the table, or they would lose their stinking benefits!

    We have a test for anyone who expresses an interest in helping with the horses. We have them walk past a spot where there is a shovel, a manure bucket, and a fresh pile of horse manure.

    Losers say, "Eeewww." Or they turn away and keep moving.

    Winners (if we ever saw any) would pick up the shovel and get to work.

    We've had one winner, but she owns her own farm, elsewhere. When she visited, she picked up a shovel, of course.
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  • Posted by evlwhtguy 8 years, 11 months ago
    We will see the usual canards....women children and minorities hurt the most.....children will be dying in the streets etc!

    When will people begin to understand...these programs spawn problems, not solve them.
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  • Posted by $ 8 years, 11 months ago
    My idea, and I'm not one for welfare, is to give those who need assistance 3 years of state services. State services, to me, is defined as community college, child care, rent and utilities fully paid, bus passes/train passes, and food stamps. The intention is to provide the person with a fishing pole. They have 3 years to pursue a 2 year degree in the occupation of their choosing. If after 3 years they have not obtained their profession they are removed from the "assistance" rolls forever. If they achieve, they will have a profession, they will be able to support themselves and the "should" never need from others again.

    Illegal aliens, non-citizens, are entitled to nothing save 6 months in jail followed by deportation - the bil lcan be sent to Mexico.
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    • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 11 months ago
      AJA -

      See my post to XenokRoy - Britain managed to put a dent into the dole just by having people sign contracts that they promised to look for work.; also, paying benefits monthly seems to be better than paying every two weeks. Such little changes...

      Jan
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  • Posted by vido 8 years, 11 months ago
    The very existence of a deficit means that welfare programs are a luxury that can't be afforded. This whole thing should therefore be cancelled.
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    • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 11 months ago
      As well as our aid to foreign countries. I am not opposed to foreign aid but we have to set our own house in order before we make donations to someone else.

      Jan
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  • Posted by skidance 8 years, 11 months ago
    I think that those who actually are too disabled to work should be exempt, at least for the time being, until voluntary donations/charity could take over. Otherwise, it's an excellent idea.
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    • Posted by $ jlc 8 years, 11 months ago
      And what we need to evaluate here is if the people who are genuinely too disabled to work constitute a small enough number of people that private charity can support them.

      Jan
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  • Posted by Wonky 8 years, 11 months ago
    Any press that indicates "a prevailing mood [...] that welfare, Medicaid and other public assistance programs are crutches that keep the poor from getting back on their feet and achieving their potential" is good press IMHO.

    This is the best way to fight entitlements - to label them as "holding back the recipients" rather than helping them.

    I may be imagining it, but I'm seeing this as a recurring theme that is increasing in frequency. While the legislation itself may be weak, I think the press is good.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 11 months ago
    raise the income tax percentage from 8 percent. Then fix the lottery so that once a month someone buys their ticket in Arizona. one billion is what percent of the feds share of 38% and the states share of x percent divided by 12.

    Sorry...trying to think like a politician.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 8 years, 11 months ago
    The astounding part of the British story, to me, is the increase in jobs. I'd like to hear more about how they did it. The US lost a huge number of jobs in the 2008 slump that have not reappeared, and I assume it's because of the huge increases in taxes (including Obamacare taxes and penalties) and costly regulations. Just roll both back to what they were on 1/1/2008 and I'd expect to see 2 or 3 million Americans who have permanently left the workforce return to it. And I'm sure many of those people get some form of welfare.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 8 years, 11 months ago
    Only a billion deficit? Chump Change! They shouldn't start worrying until the billions approach a trillion, emulating Big Brother in Washington. Then, because the people fear bankruptcy, they can raise taxes and start a series of borrow and tax, borrow and tax. Doesn't that sound like fun, boys and girls? Oops, I'm sorry I meant girls and boys.
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