10

Oregon Becomes First State To Implement Per-Mile Road Tax

Posted by $ nickursis 9 years, 1 month ago to Government
159 comments | Share | Flag

First into Bondage! Oregon leads the way! We have never seen a tax we didn't like! A holes.
I drive 1736 miles a month to work, @ 38 mpg I spend $13.70 a month. Were I stupid enough to do this rip off, (at the low, low price of 1.5cents per rutted, potholed mile next to beautiful bike lanes built with gas tax money) I would "give" or "donate" to the State of ineptitude 26.04. Only a 100% tax increase? I get a high mileage car because I do not want to cdonate to gas price manipulating oil companies, so now I get to give Oregon the equivelant of 60 cents a gallon in Road Tax because I don't "waste" enough gas for them? But now I can pay an additional 30 cents a gallon for eco friendly fuel that some Dumbocrap thought I "needed" to use so we could "support the alternate fuel industry" that gave so frickin much to them the last election they stole? DO NOT, DO NOT allow your state to go down this road, unless you own a 5 gallon a mile PU or something.

All Comments

Previous comments...   You are currently on page 2.
  • Posted by $ nickursis 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Indeed, you are correct, I think CSX claims like 50 mpg in equivalent per ton mileage. But they are big frickin trains too. Rail suffers from the lack of special interest money that trucking can bring to the table, since it doesn't take near as many people to move a lot more cargo.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    My point about trains is that trains are about 3.5x less expensive per ton-mile for shipping than trucks (far more fuel efficient). Trucks benefit from roads being paid for by taxes and further subsidized by vehicle taxes.

    Agree, train unions and pork-politics killed them, but now the Teamsters keep trucking artificially affordable.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by $ nickursis 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Ohhh, get me started!!! In Portland (I think it was a Left Coast deal) the longshoreman went on slowdown, caused issues and 2 companies packed up. THat lost 600 jobs making 150K/yr. Are they pissed!! That is how stupid they are, and greedy. They thought the requirement to contribute to their health care was outrageous, despite having voted for the Obamanation and allowing the ObamaCare to pass all the while thinking it was for "THEM' not US. Us has become them and that has really, really pissed them off. Systems that depend on human glue seem to invariable fall due to the greed of the glue. You are NEVER indispensable, do not make that mistake.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    It's good to be afloat. The last boat I worked on was a 30' Winthrop Warner sloop built in 1936. No electric, shower, refer. Joy dish soap washes off in saltwater for those refreshing salt baths.... Ahhhh
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Comment hidden due to member score or comment score too low. View Comment
  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Trains lost out soon after WWII when they threatened massive strikes. As a result the then President set up military train operation units and then emulated what had seen in Europe the autobahn. Called the National Defense Highway System and coupled with cheap gasoline (25 cents a gallon) it became the freeway system you all now enjoy. Trains cannot and have not been able to make a living unless their consist (number and types of cars) carry one product to one destination. Except for passengers, Also the rail lines are not in place for long runs. SE US to SW us routes through Chicago. The west coast line has two sections by bus. etc. etc.The only product I can think of other than grain is coal and get this. Eastern US Coal to Oregon to fuel Boardman electric plant after they forced a shut down of Trojan nuclear for environmental reasons. What a bunch of goofs.

    Roads that is freeways led to UPS then add aircraft which replaced trains and ships, computers, and a new phone system with a real long distance ability led to Amazon and bingo todays order is in your house tomorrow. Trains are only part of the system and like Russia we need to fix what is broke.

    So when are trains most useful?

    Like loads to like destinations.

    Use of shipping containers from China to LA to Baltimore.

    When there are tracks in place

    when the price of truck fuel surpasses trainfuel ha ha they are both diesel.

    When the industry and it's unions out weigh the trucking version and regain what it lost in the early fifties.l
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Comment hidden due to member score or comment score too low. View Comment
  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Amen to that. First start with the Patriot Act and the Protective Echelon. The value is in the amount of people that are responsible enough to make change and that includes changes in the Constitution done legally. Let me know when you find them. In the military we took our oath to the Constitution. Then returned to find the people had sold us out. I don't know how many must be's the Constitution Party has or hasn't. Haven't been provided any information yet or reasons for or against. Do they really exist?
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Comment hidden due to member score or comment score too low. View Comment
  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I dont own a car. But i have a little dinghy to row and I'm thinking of upgrading to an inflatable kayak..'

    I don't buy gas and just as very very little amount of diesel.

    I make my own electricity.

    No House no property tax.

    Vehicle licensing down to $150 year.

    No newspaper, no tv reception, no tv, no wifi that I pay for.

    About $10 a month for a cell phone.

    This year I have a tax refund but not too big which is good. I didn't lose much buying power that way.

    When i use the dock I pay $400 a month and get electricity, garbage, water, Divide by30 multiply by number of days. The rest of the time I go fishing, diving, or kayaking or......

    Life is SOOOOOOOOO hard.






    Reply | Permalink  
  • Comment hidden due to member score or comment score too low. View Comment
  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Did yiou ever look up the cost per mile for Seattle Mass Transit? They should rename it Obama West or Boston II or just plain Chicago.

    Reply | Permalink  
  • Comment hidden due to member score or comment score too low. View Comment
  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    As long as it's Constitutional, Sorry moot point. I gotta feel sorry for people that believe in something that doesn't exist.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Hello NMA,
    Yes indeed. Nothing about it makes any sense. Unions funded by government contracts. The local townships want more revenue via property taxes so the system is rigged. Family farmers stop farming, re-zone their land for residential and sell, so people build McMansions in new subdivisions with more streets the gov't can't afford to maintain... food prices go up and we become more dependent on large agro-corps in places like the San Fernando valley where they get droughts... what a roller coaster... We are all being taken for a ride. "Government is like a baby. An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other." - Ronald Reagan
    Regards,
    O.A.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    All unionized... Just sayin'....
    It's the same everywhere I drive. Two tree cutting crews, plus the chippers, and they are all standing around having a smoke, shooting the breeze, traffic piles up, and they eventually deign to allow cars to pass. After the mandatory 15 minute break, of course.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    That's what we get here. I've never seen such a waste of effort! I would be more cost effective in the long run to just repave! And the holes here after this dreadful winter, they could swallow my Touareg whole with room to spare. I'm expecting CT to follow suit with some cockamamie scheme any time now..
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I personally am concerned that the governor here is going to run with this crazy scheme... He's just enough of a socialist to do it.
    I used to go on loooong rides many years ago. Loved it!
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    yessir, the bigger the govt gets, the less efficient
    and effective it is. . now, we're sending a carrier
    to Yemen to "keep sea lanes open" instead of
    confronting Iran's expansion and control of yet
    another country. -- j

    p.s. . my family has a cabin in the country with
    a jet pump 300-plus feet down; ; ; the generator
    is here at our house, though. . but it trucks well
    in the baja mini-pickup!

    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by $ nickursis 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Certainly, but first we would have to enforce some respect for it, and not let it be perverted by judges who want to pass their own agendas.
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by $ nickursis 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    62 miles on a horse is a good days ride, and the roads are just going to be as bad. Gyro-copter seems best bet...I wonder of the dude who landed at Obama's place wants to sell cheap...
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by $ nickursis 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    We had a winter when we first got here that had about 28" of snow and no power for 5 days. Learned you must have power for well, so I had electrician install 50' cord so I can run it off generator. Yep, lots of things to consider.If only government had to take care of things and not weasel out...
    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    back in the eighties we had an 18 inch snowfall here
    and my sister had a thoroughbred at a friend's farm.
    we needed to do the daily hay, water and feed thing
    and my 77 jeep cherokee chief was "it" for the
    adventure. . we found everything and made it
    fine, but there were trials and tribulations -- and
    a scar on the left rear corner -- which left us in awe
    of mama nature!!! -- j

    p.s. . Lots Of Good Four Wheel Drive Time!!!

    Reply | Permalink  
  • Posted by kevinw 9 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Trying to stay abreast of this titillating conversation has left me udderly baffled so I think I'll moooove on outta here.

    Thanks for the mammaries.
    Reply | Permalink  

  • Comment hidden. Undo