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A Gulch and The Walking Dead

Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 9 years, 1 month ago to Philosophy
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I had an excellent lunch last Saturday with an Objectivist, and one of the things we talked about was skills we have to offer to a Gulch. In that vain, I have developed a scenario to hopefully stimulate thought and discussion on this topic.

It's my post, so my rules. Here is the scenario:

It is a post apocalyptic world, either natural or man-made that resembles the 1815's in technology. There will be walking dead. They may not be zombies, but they are out to kill you and take your resources. There is no power sources anywhere in the world other than solar, wind and horse power.

A few fellow Objectivists and I have found and established an invitation only Gulch with all the natural resources we can use. We will send a few people out to recruit new residents, much like Francisco and John were doing.

There are 2 inviolate requirements and rules for Gulchers and prospective invitee Gulchers:

1: All people 16 years and older MUST be willing to truly and honestly, of their own free will, take The Oath. This may require a potential invitee to make a hard choice as there will be no exceptions.
2: The existence and the location of this Gulch MUST be kept secret and it will be defended.

What skills and/or resources can you bring to this Gulch? Why would we recruit you?


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  • Posted by Zenphamy 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I love to BBQ in an old pit type over smoke alone. It takes 12 to 24 hours depending on the cut or the animal.
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  • Posted by $ Maree 9 years, 1 month ago
    1815s, ok :
    i do not panic.
    I can live hard.
    I have done some tough shit.
    I can manipulate water and shelter.
    We have to keep healthy - i have dug poo pits and made soap.
    I confidently navigate across a range of altitudes and terrains.
    I can manage horses.
    I can run, or at least walk, all day regardless of terrain and weather.
    I can switch between leading and following.
    But i cannot abide fools.
    I will eat anything. I mean, anything. I won't stop at dead horses. Which make more than soap.
    And still I do not panic.



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  • Posted by strugatsky 9 years, 1 month ago
    For starters, the Oath is a given. I've been living it for years...
    If I can bring my weapons and ammo, the hardware part of the Gulch's security will be solved! As an engineer, I think that I have a few more good years left of making something useful; and my wife is a baker - and everyone loves bread. I have also spent over two decades working for the government, so I inherently know and can foresee the devious actions coming from the government. If there's any communication with the outside world, including protecting ourselves from it, this may be an invaluable resource.
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  • Posted by autumnleaves 9 years, 1 month ago
    I am a retired R.N., so I can work in the hospital. I will work in the veggie garden also. I do not like to cook but will volunteer to do the dishes each night! Hope you can use me! Lyn
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  • Posted by gcarl615 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Thank you. It was something I wanted to prove to myself I could do. It is still standing 30 some years later. I am kinda proud of it.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 9 years, 1 month ago
    JBrenner; this is going to be Steampunk Era sans Rayguns post apocalyptic America. You'll need to scavenge alot of material. Survival will have to come first. There will be some members who will have some guns and ammo. But, the basics must come first. Such as shelter, blankets and clothing, flamable materials to burn in some sort of stove also a potable water supply. I can bring assortment of hand tools, my pocket Mechanics Handbook,a knowledge of making gaskets for hydraulic and steam powered machinery; basic plumbing and wiring know how and how to make basic batteries. All for sale or barter.
    The fellow who can work with chemicals should be able to make gunpowder that could be used for mining and weapons.
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  • Posted by $ jlc 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    That is a problem for me. I have found that I cannot name an animal 'Dinner'. I do not hunt, but it would be easier for me to hunt than to slaughter an animal that trusted me. At least in hunting, the prey would have me correctly pegged as 'predator'.

    Right now I have 6 chickens, a sheep, a horse, 3 dogs a cat...and a bunch of feral cats who look to me for breakfast. I have trained many horses for various purposes, but never from the ground up.

    Jan, watched too many Disney movies
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  • Posted by Flootus5 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I am sure that there would be a gunsmith in the Gulch. And you'll no doubt be able to upgrade to some pretty cool stuff.

    And the old codger on the web page with the beard and the gold pan? That's me. Scroll down a little.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    HMM. So it is. I was wrong. My point is that to effectively start a gulch, one would benefit from maximum planning and the bringing of modern tools and information there.
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  • Posted by Flootus5 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    The San Juans have bonanza grade gold-silver veins. Silverton-Ouray country. And typically more reliable water amounts from the sky, especially with current conditions in the Sierra Nevada.

    I knew an underground mining contractor from the Silverton area that put himself through college for his Mining Engineering degree by going up and working a vein on summer weekends. And that was with a gold price back in the early 70's.

    I worked with him back in '84 on an underground vein deposit in Arizona. A number of his miners came from the Silverton area and had "lunch bucket" obtained samples from the Standard Mine. They would sit on the porch of a cabin in the evening and just put a blow torch to the samples, and the gold and silver came pouring out.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Shades of the Forty-Niners!

    http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=fort...

    Too bad my cheap Spanish-made $100 cap n' ball .44 Navy Colt has a defunct hammer I can't pull back.
    At least I got to fire it for about a year before it became a non-firing conversation piece. Oh, well, you get what you pay for.
    That Civil War pistol is too advanced anyway. Recall reading that the Forty-Niners used assorted pepperboxes for handguns.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Photography will be back to pre-digital per the terms of this future gulch, so your knowledge may be valuable.
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  • Posted by believer83 9 years, 1 month ago
    I am a nurse with 46 years experience---even without out 21st century technology, Iam able to assess and intervene in many areas using common sense, clean techniques, and the materials at hand to bring about effective resolution to physical problems. Additionally, I am a Reiki practitioner and a student of alternative medicine.
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  • Posted by term2 9 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I think its all about planning and one would want as much advance notice of starting a gulch as possible. Reminds me of the documentary on 'burning man' where people get together to make pretty massive things to take to burning man festivals. They get to use modern tools and then take the completed things out to the desert near las vegas
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