Obama Wants All Americans to Learn Code

Posted by $ Mimi 10 years, 5 months ago to Education
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I don’t think any big push to teach students to write code is going to save that crappy website at this late date. Poor misguided fool.


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  • Posted by $ Mimi 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I don’t know about living in my home, but they are already stealing my parking spot. :)
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  • Posted by BambiB 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I believe you, Mimi. Most women aren't willing to do what's necessary to preserve America. They want all the benefits - but they don't want to pay the price. They, like you, would much rather throw open the doors to millions of invaders so those invaders can drive America to the level of Sudan or Afghanistan than stop them.

    Tell you what, Mimi… if you're not willing to stop them - can we at least let them come live with your in your home? I mean, if you're willing to let criminals enter the country, if you don't care about the invasion, the least you can do is be first in line to bear the consequences of your choice.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGCh...
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  • Posted by $ Mimi 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I wouldn’t want to live in a country that put people to work shooting families that crossed the border. When the invaders are dead in what direction will the guns point?
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  • Posted by BambiB 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Just to clarify: 20 million people illegally entering a country is not an "immigration problem". It's an invasion. The proper way to repel an invasion is with force - deadly force. So I say shoot a few AS THEY ARE CROSSING THE BORDER. Video the kills. Transmit the video 24/7/365 to Mexico. You will probably only have to shoot half a dozen to stop the invasion because the rest will get the idea… if you want to come to America, do it the right way.

    Next, 2 years hard labor (living in a tent city) if you remain or illegally enter after the deadline. I'm not talking about a mandatory sentence for someone who makes a mistake on their paperwork, or overstays their visa by a month. I'm talking about people who KNOW they're committing a criminal act when they enter, or continue in a criminal status for a long period of time. Sorry, but the "DREAM" kiddies who have been soaking up the free benefits for the last decade have to go. We don't let the kids of bank robbers keep the loot. Kids who came with their criminal parents shouldn't get to keep residence.

    The firing squads would be for repeat offenders… but no need to waste ammo. A needle works as well.

    Yeah, I know the odds of being able to do any of this are approximately nil. It's part of the pussification of America.
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  • Posted by $ Mimi 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I must have misread you because I thought you meant we should execute in response to someone crossing the border for the first time, not someone recrossing the border. Hmm...I don’t know. I think there should be something like six months of hard labor before sending them home. The hard labor should be to pick up the trash along the border. I read the trash is accumulating at an insane rate because no one is cleaning it up now. But that wouldn’t work for the children who come across the border. That little girl from Ecuador who recently died along the route comes to mind. Her parents are here illegally living in New York. If you or I did that--left our kids in another state while we went to work some place else then sent for them later, arranging for them to travel alone we would be in jail for neglect. Maybe it’s time to stop treating foreigners like they are somehow incapable of being held to the same standard of responsible behavior.
    I think we could do more to discourage people from coming. I’m not talking about penalizing businesses for hiring. One thing I would like to do is make English the official language. Do you remember the guy a couple years ago in Chicago who put a sign in the window of his restaurant requesting his customers to order in English? It blew me away that he caught flack from the mayor for his sign. If we can’t get the simple common sense approaches approved I don’t think we will get approval for the firing squad. Sorry, Bambib.(I’m joking about the firing squad, btw.)
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  • Posted by BambiB 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't think a death penalty for re-entering a country you've been told to stay out of is at all excessive. Under my proposal, by that point, you've been caught, you've spent two years in prison, you've lost everything you own and you've been deported with a warning that if you ever return, you will be executed. You think THAT sounds like a "welcome mat"?? What the hell is your "no trespassing" sign?
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  • Posted by $ Mimi 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    Death penalty? That’s a bit drastic, perhaps no re-entry ever? It really isn’t an invasion if they crossed a welcome mat.
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  • Posted by BambiB 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    They also need to make penalties for fraud much, much tougher. Like the death penalty. No waiting on death row.

    Any other country on earth would see 20 million criminal aliens for what it is - an invasion.

    When a country is invaded, there are two responses: Fight or surrender. Fighting means killing the invaders. Surrender means bending over and asking, "May I have another, please?"

    Guess which one most politicians are for?
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  • Posted by $ Mimi 10 years ago in reply to this comment.
    It happens in the health industry too. Unqualified foreign workers get in on H-1b visas to fill nursing, and tech jobs, but their papers are forged. I ran into a situation about five years ago when I went to visit a relative on a psych ward and nobody on the nursing staff's evening shift could speak english. How is a patient suppose to get care if they can’t communicate with the staff? The staff couldn’t even communicate efficiently with each other because they were from different African nations and regions of India They are flooding the system. It will only get worse with Obamacare.
    What they need to do is freeze the program, verify the original paperwork, and retest the ones that are here.
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  • Posted by BambiB 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Now that you raise the H1B issue - did you see the recent busts where a bunch of Indians were rounded up doing scut work in restaurants? Officially, they were "H1B computer programmers". ;-)

    Re H-1B's generally… (found on line)

    Are you a technically-skilled worker?
    Are you looking for a job?

    Good luck with that.

    CONGRESS IS FLOODING THE UNITED STATES WITH FOREIGN WORKERS WHO ARE TAKING OUR JOBS!

    Lou Dobbs explains how American College Students are being cheated by H-1B. The H-1B visa program was originally set up to allow foreigners to fill American jobs for which no qualified Americans could be found. But American tech companies like Microsoft and Oracle have used the program as a way to import cheaper labor while laying off thousands of American workers. They are IMPORTING OUTSOURCING. But it's worse than that! Companies are GAMING THE SYSTEM to avoid hiring Americans!!!

    "OUR GOAL IS NOT TO FIND A QUALIFIED AND INTERESTED U.S. WORKER" (at the 1:46 mark)
    Companies are intentially giving American jobs to foreigners.

    They could NOT do this without the H-1B program.

    Congress is in charge of the H-1B program.

    Obama and Congrees spent $900 billion to "stimulate" the economy

    When all they had to do was cut back the H-1B program to create hundreds of thousands of jobs for Americans.
    The H-1B program provides for up to 65,000 foreigners to come to the USA and take American jobs.

    But the "limit" is a LIE.
    IN truth, the H-1B program is used to import more than a quarter MILLION foreigners a year to take American jobs. The number is effectively UNLIMITED and FAR from 'temporary'. The initial visa is good for 3 years - and can be easily renewed for another 3 years. Then the foreign worker can apply for citizenship, which typically takes 2 years to process. Even if they are rejected for citizenship, they are here for EIGHT YEARS. And if they get citizenship, they're here FOREVER.

    Note: The links didn't survive a copy/paste, so I've preserved them here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL_fTICwF...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPblKUSX4...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFaj...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-1B_visa#C...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uaofpy3D-...
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H-1B_visa#F...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2VdN5jJr...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh6OLUPSH...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPZZ5Gisy...

    The one where the company has hired consultants to teach them how to get around the immigration law is quite instructive.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 10 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I have been saying the same thing you wrote for a long time. Who needs good US programmers when big employers will just hire 10 programmers in India for less than cost of living for 1 in the US?
    A partner at Deloitte and Touche hired me as a systems design consultant repeatedly because I could cut run times on simulations by orders of magnitude. Only important to Wall Street and the military now, and I can't ethically work for either. (I have found other productive uses for my time )that also doesn't require me to be an unpaid support guy for Microsoft ;^)
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  • Posted by freedomforall 10 years, 1 month ago
    No born programmers, but there are a lot of born blowhards.
    Thanks, Blowhard in Chief Obama.
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  • Posted by $ Mimi 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don’t think he had anything to do with what was put on the teleprompter for him to read. The only thing I’ve seen this guy do is get a crowd going at a rally. He didn’t write or add his name to any laws as a Senator. He often just voted ‘present’. He supposely taught at the university level but have you seen anyone come forward to say”Yeah, he was my teacher” Was he was funny, engaging, or informative or what? We don’t know. We know he listed as being the President of Harvard Law Review, but since he failed to wrtie any editorials for the paper we know nothing about how that went. This is the first President in modern history who has managed to keep his college transcripts a complete secret. I’m not comfortable trying to find valid reasons why I should trust him when every fact screams don’t, This is the problem with voting for a President possessing a cult of personality. I don’t see anything wrong with the video and the content, but I do see something wrong with the leader of the free world constantly making appearances in info-mercials as some sort of believable celebrity-brand. What exactly is his area of expertise and how is that a value to us? (I’m throwing the questions out there, Maph. I’m not expecting you to have the answers. I don’t.)
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  • Posted by $ Mimi 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I would have had I made the statement, but I didn’t; you did. No source? Fine. No credibility.
    Btw, I didn’t point you up or down. If you don’t stop with the personal attacks no one here is going to want to read what you write. Isn’t that the whole point of joining an online community? Especially this one that reflects on rational thought.
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 10 years, 5 months ago
    December 9 was Grace Hopper's Birthday. The Google Doodle calculated her age on a big computer. Bing's background was a Babbage Engine. This has been National Computer Science Education Week. http://csedweek.org/

    This video calling for programmers from http://Code.org came out Feb. 26, 2013:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKIu9yen5...

    I took a class in Ruby on Rails last year; and all of us were experienced programmers; but only some of us had ever seen the Command Line. That said, it is not true that the command-line interface is "real" programming" and dragging icons is not. After all, Assembler was invented to obviate programming in binary... which was better than flipping physical switches.

    I believe that the bottom line is that as informatics continues to evolve - as did steam engines and radio; both of which are still with us - division of labor will create new opportunities while bringing new applications for older work. (See "The Economy of Cities" by Jane Jacobs.)
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And, in point of fact, computer science skills are becoming less and less important as time marches on. Because the computers are doing more for the average Joe.

    As time goes on, computer science will become (once again) a limited and esoteric field, with lots of "programmers" who do nothing more than point, click and drag icons in order to design "apps" and "web sites", while the real coders will become highly specialized with far less disseminated knowledge than was available in the 80s and 90s to non specialists.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    She wasn't being a jackass, merely asking for confirmation of your assertion.

    It's a pretty bold assertion that firms owned by white males were not allowed to bid. It's one I find believable in today's social climate, but without some sort of objective evidence that it actually happened, it's just rumor. And if there's documentation that it *did* happen, that's one helluva weapon to wield against the administration.
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  • Posted by fairbro 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Huh? Compare a video showing how to do basic brain surgery? The video is saying PRECISELY that. It is saying that you magically become computer programmer by knowing a few lines of code.
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  • Posted by Eyecu2 10 years, 5 months ago
    While I think that this man is utter scum in this specific case I do agree with his message.
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  • Posted by $ Maphesdus 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    He said everyone should learn computer science. He just mentioned programming as one particular example.
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  • Posted by $ Maphesdus 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Obama isn't "my guy." The presidential candidate who I liked most during the 2012 election was actually Gary Johnson. Sadly, he never had a chance of winning, even if his policies were the best.

    As for why I'm defending Obama here, it's because he just happened to say something that was true. I'm well aware that Obama has many faulty policies, but that doesn't mean he's always wrong about everything.
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