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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Happens every day and some of them believe in a different truth every day. The political gospel according to St. James of Carville is much like that. How? Gullible. Some can be fooled or made fools of all the time.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's not a case of being allowed or not allowed., It's a case of looking in the mirror and being proud of what you did or afraid to admit what you did to your children.. No one else to praise. No one else to blame.
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  • Posted by plusaf 8 years, 10 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Sorry for the delay... was on holiday in UK for past two weeks...

    Check/search the publications for the articles. Reason Mag articles were around October-December of last year.

    In 'my usage,' socially 'liberal' folks don't care what you do with YOUR body so long as it doesn't directly affect theirs. (abortion, contraception, gay marriage, etc.); fiscally 'conservative' folks do NOT believe that the Government is the Be-All/End-All Best Provider of Solutions to Any and All problems we face, and that if a project or Agency fails to deliver on its raison d'etre, throwing more money at them to 'make it work' is as dumb as a bag of rocks (or most fiscal liberals...)

    Hope that helps. I've got my own definitions of Critical Thinking, too... :)
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I will need a better explanation of that one. It sounds and I say this in all serious candor much the same as a Marxist Anarchist The two seen mutually exclusive and diametrically opposed. If you define as I do liberalism meaning fast change by any means and conservatism as moderate or slow change. I tend toward original definitions and not the leftist meaning of the moment version but understand many did not have the luxury of living when original definitions were readily available.
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  • Posted by plusaf 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I also have been watching what seems to be a cultural shift in the Millennials and the new Generation Z folks... a tendency towards social liberalism combined with fiscal conservatism.
    Articles in Reason and Fortune seem to keep mentioning this. For that, I have hope. Maybe in my lifetime, too... if anyone comes along who doesn't screw up the marketing of such a 'party.'
    :)
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 8 years, 11 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Which backs up the equation to influence coming from the only possible place - the polls and losing other support and that means targeting areas that are possible. 110,000 precincts and one third of the 25% of eligible to vote who do vote split between Dinos, Rinos and the small partys and independents and then go after those who were opting not to vote or not to register and not vote. Same ones the Dinos and Rinos go after. If they put the usual act it would nine percent to beat both of them assuming they split in a fairly even manner. OR 13 percent if they through off the maskirova of being a multiparty system and went for one or the other candidate. they hand select. Or they make a fool of themselves publically in the process.

    First you need the actual numbers and they might be a closely guarded State Secret.

    Then you need to know and that's local knowledge where to target and how to target.
    I like hit and run and hit from another direction another way. Makes them chew up campaign funds fast. Soros and the money laundering congress don't know what to defend nor where nor when.

    Third you need a focus point in effect if not a real party a straw party with an acceptable campaign for the sole purpose of defeating the other two candidates of the single party system in as many areas, precincts etc. as possible.

    Then you become will of the wisp so the press doesn't know from one day to the next who or whom to attack.

    It's not even close to time to do more while presenting the ideas

    Any chance of infiltrating one or the other in the primary where enough people can cause a weak candidate to win and strong candidate to lose. That's called raiding in polysci terminolgy.

    The whole thing is a death of a thousand cuts but the mosquitoes get blamed. Funny thing there are always more mosquitoes.

    That one group of people which now seems to equal or more than equal either of the two halves of the government party is a mighty enticing group to go after.

    Even the threat of doing so. What I'm writing right now will cause a realignment of campaign funds.

    Drop by drop the same way the bleed us.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Money talks and the left walks away with the prize again. It's just another version of a poll tax with embellishments. And yes the Left does include establishment Republicans.

    Georgie can speak freely anywhere he wants and especially in his own precinct. So can we all, At least we used to have that right. All it took was showing up and speaking or writing a letter ot the editor or publishing your own door to door flyer and delivering it to 1100 residences.

    Now justify UAW, GMC, any foreign country, SPCA, or any other entity that cannot vote. I'll exclude SPCA if it's about a measure having to do with animal shelters in my local area. I use UAW and GMC a representative of the whole PAC system as they were quite recently government funded in the great payback bailout.

    In some cases such as under the Bacon Act not only are union and corporate PAC's taxpayer funded but a portion is laundered back into the campaign funds of those providing them with taxpayer funds to launder. Try getting a job call if you haven't donated which is easy to do as the Davis Bacon prevailing wage scales are easily double the actual prevailing wage scale . Soros your way out of that one.

    Can you parse any''one'' into any group such as unions, corporations, and foreign countries? Where did the Constitution provide that right? For that matter did it refer to the press specifically? Georgie is OK he's a voter - probably maybe - but not in my precinct. I'm assuming that. I don't know that's true. Maybe he's like that Australian dude and his media chain? Doesn't matter. Both are some one. I'll let it slide. But the entity's are not and never were voters. Sadly it's a moot point. None of those rights exist in a country that opted to ignore the document that provided them.

    Which Precinct? Mine is located in Bight, ME. I'm a group of one and I both approved and paid for this ad without using money. Free speech is exactly that - Free.

    "Georgie about that offer? Sorry 'my votes not for sale!"

    "Sorry to hear that but never mind. We didn't include it in the new version of the Constitution."

    Click.
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  • Posted by lrbeggs 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Started a new job, its kicking my butt. I am stressed and working long hours to prove myself. I miss the gulch, the usual suspects and the discussions. :)
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Getting deeper into consciousness versus existence: There is much in the universe that is unaccounted for in Objectivism. While our senses allow us to deal with the reality that keeps us functioning, it is only a part of what the universe is comprised of. We need instruments which turn the stuff of the universe into things our senses can comprehend, and then we can use math to prove what our instruments have shown us. Consciousness meets quantum physics, meets existence will eventually, as we learn more, may change our concepts of existence and consciousness. However, to date, in order to cope with the universe within the limits of our abilities, there is no better guide in my opinion, than Objectivism.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Lenin's comment was in answer to a question by Mussolini then the leader of the Italian Socialist movement who turned it into a National Socialist movement. He also changed the traditional triumverate of Church, State, and the elitist class who had most of the military strength to State and Military, Big Business and Banking, and Union Leaders. Pointedly leaving out union members and small business or commercial concerns.

    Today we know it as the Government Party or Coalition, Major Commerce and Financial owner/leaders, and Union Leaders. The first two compromise the ruling class with interchangeable parts - the third is their kickstand.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree, and some interesting quotes;^)
    Completely agree that one term of no more than 4 years for all national offices, only one government elected national position per lifetime, and neither state nor federal bureaucrats and elected officials are allowed to run for elected national office. No career politicians should be tolerated at the national level. State's may follow that model or not. It's the people's choice.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Lenin's comments on explaining Marxist-Leninist Economics went something like this. You can't teach it you must preach it. Convince the masses it's OK not to understand we have others in the party that do so just follow along and we'll lead the way to the promised land. He finished up with advice to preach belief in whatever the party says as an article of faith - understanding is not a requirement. The genesis of how the left wing of the country works and evidenced by quotes from the current left wing also from Lenin ' Anything said or done to advance the party is the Truth'' - at least until they put out a new truth this afternoon or tomorrow.

    You nailed it. Hazy is the word and now it's a race between Pelosyllini and whats her name.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Did the dude really say that? Let's look back. CEO of GS sends Ruben to be Sec Treas. GS is heavily invested in Mexican Tesorobonos (Treasury Bonds.) Mexico at that time in the nineties reneges but more directly and openly as does the US Government. Sec Treas Rubin devises a bail out using incoming receipts from Social Security, I think some Railroad Retirement Funds aswell perhaps some others. The Tesorobonos are bailed out with most of the money going to US based investment banks and similar firms. One happens to be Gold Sachs. All this time and behind a supposedly blind trust Sec Treas is a stock holder in GS. Meanwhile the left is talking appearance of impropriety.

    As for the rest we're advised to leave things as they are or George Soros will simply buy the next candidate one way or another. Not good enough for me but at least we have a balanced viewpoint fro the other side. To sum it up. Give up. Resistance is futile. At any level.

    Back to reality.one other proposal along with one term only has been to change the Presidency to one term of six years. Ups and downs to that one but two years for the Representatives is spent mostly campaigning or raising funds not working. So another proposed change is Reps to three years and one term. Lots of combinations to discuss. I like the two year one because then with one term it would run Soros broke that much faster.

    The comment is always made it takes two years or more just to learn how to work the system. Huh? Is it that crooked? Well. Think of something said by Samuel Clements

    'US Congress is Americas's only true homegrown criminal class.'

    or his Treatise 'Cannibals In the Cars' about the Congress deciding which one of each other to eat next.

    or his final stanza to Battle Hymn Of The Republic -

    In a sordid slime harmonious, Greed was born in yonder ditch,

    With a longing in his bosom - and for others' goods an itch -

    As Christ died to make men holy, let men die to make us rich -

    Our God is marching on."

    Samuel Clemens AKA Mark Twain had Congress nailed and those who supported status quo. I wonder how he would characterize the charade presently in office.

    I don't believe in a price on freedom of speech nor freedom of assembly either. Nor that it should be bought and sold like a cheap carbon tax. Except of course the price already paid. Appears to me the tree needs watering.
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  • Posted by plusaf 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    RE: "One swift way to ban foreign countries, corporations, PAC's, unions, and any non voting entity from buying an election. If you can't vote you can't contribute. And it does nothing to stop the free and open discussion of anything. Right of Assembly is not the same as buying votes and fixing elections. "

    >>>> I agree with that proposition, but as I try to remind everyone, the same guys who would Change those Rules are the same guys who Established The Current Rules you're proposing changing!

    Want to put any money down on the odds of THAT happening? I wouldn't. Some other kind of influence will have to come first.
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  • Posted by plusaf 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Snezzy, next time you talk to him, remind Hegel that odds are that the 'new truth' may emerge, but not in either of the minds of the folks holding tightly to their contradictory positions.
    :)
    Maybe in some 'third or fourth mind'... but unlikely in their own. Need examples of that???
    :)
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  • Posted by 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well put, jdg. Trying to keep money out of politics is a clear violation of the right to free speech, anyone's free speech, George Soros included.
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