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"Why do you need a gun?"

Posted by Non_mooching_artist 9 years, 2 months ago to Pics
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I really like these answers! Use logic on the grabbers. It gets them foaming at the mouth. Highly entertaining! 🔫


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  • Posted by 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The mayor of Springfield LOVES them, as do many who live there. They also employ many people, some for generations. The engravers are an example. :-)
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Active, reserve or volunteer for the REAL state militias for nigh on 40 years. I still work with military units who are trying to recover lessons learned but forgotten.

    "They did that back then?"

    "Yes sure did."

    But I do envy the present day equipment.
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  • Posted by $ winterwind 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    One of the things I have used in "discussions" about guns is to point out that so many people equate guns with penises - and so gun grabbing is REALLY only disguised penis confiscation.

    N.B. there is no parallel for women's body parts, any of them. sorry 'bout that.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "I know the premises are wrong."
    Notice how gun control supporters downvote but never speak up about why they disagree.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    AR15 for Armalite Model 15. M16 for the fully automatic military version thereof. CAR-15 for the Carbine version. AR-10 was the same thing in the 7.62mm version. AR-7 was James Bond's .22 version in Fromj Russia With Love and the USAF survival rifle for a while. Inventor was Eugene Stone who also did the famous Stoner System used by SEALS. All of that family are COLT Firearms which I think with S&W got run out of Massachusetts by Kerry and Friends.

    Other points of information I used to believe were false. Schmeisser is the inventor of the MP38 and MP40 Machinen Pistole. Yes you can silence a revolver as well as a pistol. The Russians did it one way by putting a regular suppressor on the barrel and a rubber like seal between the cylinder and the throat of the barrel. They then switched to silenced ammunition. The US namely S&W did the same thing with the .44 Magnum Dirty Harry style frame for the tunnel rats of Vietnam era. Simply a thickened case necked down to the actual .41 caliber for the bullet backed up by a piston with some powder loaded through the rear aperture before the primer was seated. Just like an aircraft carrier launching a fighter plane. Anymore misconceptions I'll be happy to correct if I know the answer such as setting headspace and timing on an Ma Deuce .50 caliber machinegun without the gauges.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I wonder if the descendants of the original inhabitants would agree. Personal survival is not included in the Second Amendment. Survival of the State meaning each of the Thirteen original Colonies turned independent countries was and is the issue.I'm still looking for the part that says Joselito you have the right to keep and bear AND USE arms to protect your ass against all comers. The answer to that is, it's implied and besides we don't want the financial burden of paying for your bullets. To the independent settler on the frontier who laid his or her life on the line each and every day it was a given that one form or level of government held the same meaning as any other. That partially changed when the second wave of post Civil War Europeans migrants arrived.Easy answer? Yes as a citizen you have the right to keep and bear arms - and by the way weekend drill starts this next Saturday morning on the village green.
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  • Posted by Ibecame 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We thought that was a bit long to. The cities explain it as a "Cost Saving Measure".
    Yes, I still laugh myself about where I shot that thief. It does however make the point that everyone that owns a gun isn't out to kill someone. I had a very clear field, and am a very good marksman. When he started to pull his gun, I had the upper hand and could have just as easily fired into his chest.
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  • Posted by Ibecame 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    First, I want to thank you for your service both in the Military and law enforcement. In the 70' when I managed Service Stations I used to always have coffee and snacks (ok, donuts) for the officers. I also went out of my way to get the contracts for the police vehicles for gas and service. This was a time when the economy was depressing, and crime was out of control. It was good for security, good advertising, and I liked giving something back to the officers. However, the one thing I learned back then when I was young from talking to a lot of the officers. Most of the time they show up to do just as you said. Follow up, investigate, hopefully make arrests, and do the paperwork for the court system. Most of the time they didn't prevent crimes, they documented them. I don't think most people understand what a difficult mental job that can be. They believe the Hollywood version.
    Something off topic you might find interesting: My wife and I travel rather frequently between Phoenix and Tucson on Interstate-10 and within the last several months we have seen a number of "Patrol" cars clearly marked with "Federal Police" on them.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I like that. Very nice. Although it ignores that at the time of the writing, having a firearm in the home was a given, the land was a frontier and it was necessary for survival. There wasn't a political debate about it at all. Would you setup a homestead in Alaska without a .50 caliber that can take down a bear at about 50 yards if you need to? Of course not.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Most of connects as it's straight out of the former Constitution or the interpretation of the various portions that provide for a military. I forgot one important part. You don't have the right to own a weapon. You have the right to own a weapon AND a legal responsibility to show up for government military service. Cherry picking the parts you like or don't like doesn't work. Easier to do like the Congressionals and the President and just ignore it. Rights AND Responsibiities go hand in hand.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Of course not but the point was it's not that dangerous and the USA is not that much safer unless you pick the safer areas. The rest is just common sense. Which is why expats and snowbirds congregate in certain areas and not in others. Same same USA. As for corrupt? Mexico could take lessons from the US Congress in that area. I see it going down down down south of the border as it affects every day business of living. By the by did the insider trading law for Congress ever pass? Did the former SecTreas Rubin ever get cuffed for ripping off the Social Security fund to line his own pockets? AG arrested for gun running?

    They also have affordable pay as you go medicine. While I'm six months into what looks like a year long effort to get VA status assigned in the nearest area. And great food. Not at all like Taco Hell.
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  • Posted by scojohnson 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm not entirely sure I found a couple of connected thoughts in that.

    If you are talking about registering for selective service, it's compulsory and its the law, but not necessarily enforced or a penalty for not doing so. There is definitely a 'gotcha' though. I work for a federal contractor, and we are required to check it on anyone that ever applies for employment - we've had more than a few very nice employment offers that would change some young peoples' lives, get pulled back because they never registered for selective service.

    I don't have a problem with it at all, we have an all-volunteer force (and I did volunteer and perform my duty), but we do have unforeseen future events to defend the country and our way of life from a major aggressor (such as Germany during WWII). While its not likely to happen anytime, there will always be the next time sooner or later.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Good time to review a few pertinent facts.

    Originally called State militias the National Guard to took their place. About 95% of the Guard budgets at least up to pre middle east wars days was federally provided. They were for a long time considered a great money maker for the States.

    So what's the law on the National Guard and pay attention to the word National. They can be federally activated at any time and for any length of time.

    It starts with the Second Amendment which states IN FULL right to bear arms will not be ...etc. and gives the reason. Defense of the State which use to mean the individual States but not means states. Alluded but not stated is the right and responsibility to self defense. But the hidden meaning is you buy a weapon you just joined the state militia anytime the government decides to use it that way.

    Age of participants is listed but does NOT exclude women from military service. It only gives ages for men. Back when men were the cannon fodder and women the baby factories a form of political thinking still much in vogue.

    Congress of the US gets to set all the regulations governing the military including the state militias and national guard units and yes their are state militias as well as NG units. Their purpose is to take over the armories in the absence of the units to preclude a repeat of WWII when the cities took over the buildings abandoned property. Troops came home - brand new building projects often Quonset huts to begin with.

    There's another part that calls for the States to appoint all commissioned officers.

    ALL of that works together and one part has been broadened into the military conscription acts or draft laws. The current version has another hidden part. Sign up at age 18 and that is not listed as voluntary then you are no longer eligible for the draft. You signed you are now a willing and ready individual awaiting a reporting date and time, Catch 22 strikes again. Don't want to repay your student loan? No problem Nothing to stop the lender (Government) from sending that time and place of appearance for duty notice. Then after qualifying on whatever passes for the new GI Bill it can be used or applied to your student loan scofflaw debt. Meanwhile your family gets full benefits and you get full pay - as a Private E whatever. Maybe if it was for medical school that part might improve

    But think of it a whole ready willing and able pool of college graduates ready to go be cannon fodder - all cause they involuntarily volunteered at age 18. Or put another way. All because the anti-draft movement suddenly quit and went away happy not realizing they had been bamboozled and scammed.

    I shouldn't be given the Presidebt new ideas my apologies for that part.

    Women get a free ride on that one because they don't sign the card at age 18. But the women's equal rights movement imploded in the 90's anyway so like the anti draft movement it's history...
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  • Posted by scojohnson 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    But you have a very corrupt government, and virtually no way for the citizenry to protect itself from thugs or the government.

    My wife has a family house in Jalostatitlan, I'm very familiar with the issues. Particularly the 'Policia' that ride shotgun around in pickup trucks, but do next to nothing to help anyone or stop crime.

    The examples you give... Texas/Houston, are very high crime areas in general. Is it like that in Newport Beach, CA or Eureka? absolutely not.
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  • Posted by $ MichaelAarethun 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    All it takes to get the military to do whatever is a plausible, properly constructed and presented five paragraph field order. Since that derives from the government it doesn't necessarily have to be based on true and accurate information. I give you the Tonkin Gulf Resolution and the invasion of Kosovo for two examples.
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