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DAGNAR?

Posted by tkstone 9 years, 2 months ago to Government
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How is this not major headline news? Won't even say who's gold it was.
SOURCE URL: http://www.myfoxny.com/story/28238870/4-million-in-gold-stolen-from-truck-in-north-carolina


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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 2 months ago
    I'm wondering how well-guarded was this guard vehicle before it had so conveniently a break-down with three robbers then coming along.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 2 months ago
    In today's inflated world, $4.8 million isn't worth hijacking a truck for. Must've been a few kids taking advantage of a situation. With all the billionaires around, why bother with a measly $4.8 mil. when drug dealers are laundering many times that much?
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  • Posted by Flootus5 9 years, 2 months ago
    Being in the gold mining and production business over the years, I have watched (not witnessed, haha) numerous types of gold heists take place. They never work and they are almost without exception inside jobs.

    From surreptitious carbon filters placed upon piping of preg solutions from an active heap leach, to straight out shipment heists - they were all caught. Especially shipments of what is called dore direct from a minesite refinery heading to a bullion refinery. Each deposit in the ground is slightly different and the dore produced on site has a unique geochemical signature that is cataloged and can be traced. Shipments are conducted under shifting unpredictable schedules and mixed with numerous fake shipments to throw off heisters. There are major protocols regarding chain of custody in place.

    After the dore is refined at a reputable firm such as Engelhardt to a .999 fineness, the bars then have a serial number stamped on the bar. So, these guys, if they have swiped some refined bars will have to remelt and repour the gold. Not impossible, but the secrecy of such facilities is paramount which is tough given the allure of the activity.

    There is indeed more than meets the eye yet to this story. Highly likely it is an inside job - just happening to "break down" (no backup?) in the right place and a van comes along in timely manner. And then can they actually get the gold repoured in some form without a reputable mint or refinery and placed back in the market domestic or international, without being caught?
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    • Posted by 9 years, 2 months ago
      Interesting insight. Precautions definitely stand to reason. Looks like "inside job" others have predicted is gaining traction. Always enjoy learning new info.
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    • Posted by Genez 9 years, 2 months ago
      Inside job was my first thought as well. No way it just happens to break down on a lonely stretch of highway where a van with 3 men in it ready to rob a truck happens to be. I like the Ragnar idea! Sounds like it will be difficult for the thieves to do anything with it but interesting to speculate on the possibilities..
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  • Posted by Temlakos 9 years, 2 months ago
    For a minute there, I thought you were speculating on a female pirate, or a character combining, in one person, the qualities of Dagny Taggart and Ragnar Danneskjöld. And, error or not, it got my attention.

    Now as to the contents of the article: remember, Ragnar would never hit a target like this. He hit only the "loot carriers"--the government relief ships, subsidy ships, loan ship, and gift ships. He would take off their cargoes, and sell them either to Midas Mulligan or to certain freedom fighters in Europe.
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    • Posted by 9 years, 2 months ago
      How do we know the target? The article is vague on ownership. The fact that drivers were left alive is rather Ragnar like. Just fun speculation, and yes I did have a bit of a dyslexic moment with the name. Just adds to the entertainment value. I sure this is a story that only Atlas fans can appreciate. I am sure we will never know the back story, but it is fun to speculate. Maybe it will end up in the gulch. Who's to say.
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      • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 2 months ago
        Yes, it might have been a shipment for the bankster looters manipulating the gold price who have to move gold specie from place to place to cover their lack of real product.
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        • Posted by Temlakos 9 years, 2 months ago
          I will allow that Ragnar might indeed have raided such a gold shipment, if he could determine definitively that he was taking just enough to pay back those in the Book of Retribution he and his fellow Triumvirs kept.
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          • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 2 months ago
            Eventually there will be an accounting but it likely will not be safe, peaceful, or convenient.
            I hope those who build the arks for the looters will have been the lowest bidders.
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  • Posted by airfredd22 9 years, 2 months ago
    Re: tkstone,

    First of all, what difference does it make as to whom the gold belonged to.
    Second, the story states that it was being shpped to a group of jewelry makers and presumably it belonged to the buyers.

    A legitimate question you raised is why wasn't this Armored Car robbery of over 4 Million in gold didn't get greater coverage?

    It certainly seems like it was a story that should have received greatercoverage.

    Fred speckmann
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