Re: Rozar
First, please allow me to explain about needing faith to find truth. I'm writing in the context of Christianity where ultimately all questions of truth come down to faith. Faith is simply a part of Christianity as it is in fact of any religious denomination.

I see gods hand in everything around me. How else to explain mathematics ? Could that concept be an accident? I don't believe that's possible. Nature and the way it all functions, another accident? I think not.

I define faith as asking questions and when no other answer is possible except for a higher power or as I would say, Gods hand at work.

Never fear asking questions, even of God. Thomas Jefferson said it best, “ Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear.”
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787

The only comments I ever found insulting were from Boborobdos, whom I eventually labeled as an idiot for his continuing rudeness in trying to make a point. Apparently few people bother to engage with him.

I honestly can not think of another word for you, with apologies, other than idiot.

Fred

That makes sense, I see where you're coming from. I hope you didn't take my questions above as an insult, I am just curious as to why you have faith.

I disagree you need faith to find truth. Could you tell me how you define faith?

There is no question that during the history of our nation many Constitutional requirements were disregarded throughout our country. It's even worse now. However, the important part of the constitution is what the founders wrote and intended to happen. The fact that corrupt politicians and judges chose to interpret the Constitution to serve their own ends doesn't mean that the Constitution is not the greatest document ever written. m Men unfortunately are men and it is usually their worst that comes out the more power they gather. As an immigrant of long standing, I may look at these things a little differently having experienced Communism while a boy in East Germany. My advice is to read the Constitution and watch that the politicians live up to the words and the real meaning. I will personally apologize to anyone that was ever denied anything, from running for office to a place to sit in a restaurant if prohibited by any person claiming to be a Christian. It certainly would not be following the teachings of Christ no matter what they claimed. As a Christian I will defend with my life anyone who chooses to live differently. That is what Christ taught me.

Fred

Re: Rozar,

I don't know why my not trying to convert atheist to Christianity when I am willing to invite anyone who wishes to come and join me. On the other hand, I don't feel like wasting my time on anyone who announces that they are militant atheists, They may not use the word militant, but their arguments as you can see if you read any of Boborobdos' posts.

The answer to your question of whether I don't care about them going to hell, the answer is yes, I do. However since atheists don't believe in hell, how could that argument meet with success?

Apparently atheist and their sympathizers haven't got a clue as to what a Christian is, so I'll define it for you. A Christian is a follower of the teachings of Christ which by the way if you choose not to believe in a divine Christ, then it still wouldn't hurt to believe in his “philosophy.”

Show me one word or sentence in anything written about Christ that in any way could be objected to by anyone.

As to Christians harming anyone on earth except in self defense, give me one example that wouldn't involve people who may spout the words of the Bible, but are false believers. As human beings we all commit sins on a daily basis, some minor and some major. That's why we have to work hard to walk the path of Jesus Christ and finding our way back to God through Jesus. It's not a difficult concept, but some people simply choose not to follow that path for their own reasons. God gives us free agency to follow any path we choose, some choose good and some choose evil, the choice is theirs.

As to my fooling myself in my beliefs, why should it be any concern of anyone else. If an atheist asked me if I would join in a lecture or discussion about atheism, I would fear participating. The odds are pretty long on my being persuaded however.

As to my valuing truth, I value it very much, the difference is that I recognize it, but it requires faith and that's what Christianity is all about, faith. I provide truth to anyone that wants to be exposed to it, but as I said, it requires faith.

Fred