I'm not screaming la... in any way.

What I'm screaming is leave my presence and take your brutal imaginary god with you.

Don't see your god Hiraghm.

Got any clues what I should be looking for?

Or maybe he's "invisible"? Harry Potter did that too with his cloak.

Dogs think.
Monkeys think.
Apes think.

Is a person with Downs syndrome or other mental deficiency less human?

Is a person missing a leg or arm due to misadventure less than human?

A person through genetic fault who is missing a limb still retains a human genetic pattern. He's not suddenly Neanderthal or Australopithecene.

And that's not an argument against including as human someone with a unique human genetic pattern.

We have not yet encountered intelligent SPECIES not from Earth; and they are unlikely to be able to get a human female pregnant.

As for Descartes, you apparently misunderstand the point of his assertion; I'm sure YOU know you exist. How do you know you're human?

Entire races were NOT defined as less than human because of genetics. They were defined as less than human based upon superficial physical characteristics, not genetic patterns.

Nope, religious nuts.

You don't know whether or not my religious beliefs are "nonsense" because I haven't stated them. Quit lying.

Quit lying Hiraghm. I don't have a "green" religion. Nor do I know of any such thing. Why do you make accusations based upon a falsehood?

Taking care of Earth is simply good. We need clean air and water, etc.

Yes, Hiraghm it's personal when over enthusiastic christians start their stuff with people who don't want it.

BTW, if at first you don't succeed don't try skydiving.

The woman can decide it's a baby when it is born. It's not "forgotten." It's her decision.

Missed the mark again HIraghm. You said: "In this country we use pine for the frames of houses,"

OK, how did it go building a house out of pine cones?

Hiraghm wants to play word games.

Let's watch: "If you can come up with some definition of human that is able to ignore the human genetic pattern, please share it."

Right off the top of my head I'll agree with Descartes, "I think therefor I am."

"Humanity" should NOT be described as genetic or pretty much any other physical characteristic. Remember, entire races were defined as less than human because of genetics. Is a person missing a leg or arm at birth through genetic fault less than human? Just doesn't work

And of course when we encounter intelligent races not from Earth the situation will get really complicated. Maybe they weren't created in your god's image, if such actually occurred.

Couples can marry.
But pairs of homosexuals cohabiting is not marriage.

Homosexuality is a mental/emotional illness, where its victims have misdirected sex drives, the same as many others.

There can be no argument made for changing the definition of marriage to include homosexuals that cannot also be made for defining it to include animals or inanimate objects.

If I have a "right" to marry whomever I love, then I have a "right" to marry my brother or my dog, or my car.

Marriage is the life-long commitment of male and female humans to mate. Not to breed, not to fornicate, not to hang out together, but to form the bond nature evolved there to exist between males and females to ensure the perpetuation and survival of the species.

It is not mating if it doesn't include a male and a female both.

"So you're saying the unborn child is not human unless the woman says its human."

Not saying it's an "unborn child."

I'm saying it's whatever each woman defines what is going on inside of her. That's her right and you have zero say in it.

MOF, neither do I have any say. I simply respect what she wants to say.

When you proclaim that those of us who don't follow your Green religion wish to create a hell of Earth, with no clean air, no clean water, no clean..., you are forcing your religion where it doesn't belong every bit as much as any Christian expressing his beliefs.

" touting it to force others with threats of hell, etc. "

Where have I touted it to force others with threats?

I have stated what I believe. Have I said that I will use physical violence if you don't believe the same way I do?

The two of of us have leaped from an airplane. We both have parachutes. I tell you that if you don't pull your chute at a given altitude, you will go splat.

You disagree, vehemently, and refuse to open your chute.

At which point did I threaten you? At which point did I use force?

How can my belief be a threat to you when I don't say that I will send you to hell if you don't believe as I do?

So you admit this is purely personal animus on your part.

From what other venue have you come to stalk me, Bobo?

Not my fault you plug your ears and shut your eyes and scream "La-la-la-la-la".

I repeat, look around you.

You claimed that those who don't follow your religion wish to make a hell of Earth.

You are not telling "religious nuts" to mind their own business, you are telling people with whom you have philosophical differences that they have no right to voice their opinions, for no better reason than that they do not agree with the nonsense you believe.

So, what is your evidence that Hiraghm's god is real? Do you have a photograph, recording, or maybe you can bring him to a studio somewhere so we can all see him and ask questions.

Meanwhile... ZERO evidence.

No Hiraghm, it is YOU who I am directed at. If you were muslum or any other religion and you were touting it to force others with threats of hell, etc. I'd be pointing to the hypocrisy, brutality, and silliness of that.

It'a in't bigotry if it's personal. It's YOU who is trying to mussel in with your religion to change the lives of others. It's none of your business when they tell you to go away.

By the way, you left out the third possible ending for the process: birth.

Still can't prove your brutal god is real, eh Hiraghm.

So you're saying the unborn child is not human unless the woman says its human. What's stopping the rest of us from defining people we find inconvenient as non-human?

You may have mighty fine oak floors in your home, but they're not made of trees.
In this country we use pine for the frames of houses, not oak.

Nice try, though.

My definition of murder is simple and has nothing to do with Christianity, and you know it.

Another question you won't answer:

What defines a human being?
If it's anything more than the genetic pattern, then it will be possible for individuals to kill other humans without it being murder.

No where does the Catholic church, or any protestant church, nor the Bible, nor any other religious tome state that a human being is one with a unique human genetic pattern.

That's mine. It is not religious, it is scientific. If you can come up with some definition of human that is able to ignore the human genetic pattern, please share it. Otherwise, I suggest you stop harping on it, because you're looking like more of a fool than usual.

Someone please let me know when Hiraghm makes enough sense to respond to.

Thanks.

Oh, is Fred Phelps christian?

You have consistently told us that christians who perform same sex marriages aren't christians.

Are you now saying it's OK for christians ministers to perform same sex marriages?

What religion am I forcing?

Is that what you call telling religious nuts to mind their own business?

You do what you want WITH YOURSELF.

I'm not forcing you to do anything except stay away from those who don't want your religion.

If part of your religion is to prey upon others it is wrong.