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Could this be our Gulch?

Posted by terrycan 9 years, 2 months ago to Culture
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Pitcairn Island was made famous by the novel "Mutiny on the Bounty." Imagine the possibilities. Britain might be happy to grant it independence. Imagine a few nuclear reactors. A small ship yard and a steel mill. Some high rise living and it could work. We could truly hide in plain sight. How would you develope the island?


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  • Posted by Zenphamy 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I'm familiar with Diego Garcia from a friend that was stationed there for Air Force B-52 sorties stop-overs from Guam on the way to Iraq and back. She described it as being stationed near Hell's front door.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    3D printing of metals is being done. It is expensive and limited. Controlling grain structure and bond arrangement are problems to be over come. This affects elasticity and hardness. I believe these problems will be solved soon.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You sound like you have some marketable skills and are willing to work. You are the kind of person the Gulch will need.
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  • Posted by UncommonSense 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agreed. If I'm going to an island, I'm going back to Diego Garcia, BIOT. 7 degrees below the equator and yeah, bring your 29 spf lotion. Land crabs everywhere and lots of mahi mahi. The problem is, telling the military they need to leave.

    I guess I'm staying where Huckleberry Finn and Tom Sawyer hang out. "Today's Tom Sawyer he gets high on you and the space he invades gets by on you..."
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  • Posted by Matcha 9 years, 2 months ago
    I am not staying on line all day. I just wanted to add in response to the post that these places don't exist yet. Yes they do already exist.
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  • Posted by Matcha 9 years, 2 months ago
    Oh. I would certainly sign up to read anything by Doug Casey and Simon Black. That was how we found our community.
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  • Posted by Matcha 9 years, 2 months ago
    I think you all need to get together and create your community. It doesn't have to be perfect. Just work towards a goal of independent living. Just find a place with really low taxes if you want to stay in the US. Make it a gated community. In my neighborhood the seller usually vets the buyer and then you are introduced to the man who started the community. There is one way in though a guarded gate. To buy you have to stay a while to have the neighbors decide if they will have you. But really it wasn't hard. They were just looking for like minded people.
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  • Posted by Matcha 9 years, 2 months ago
    We have no property taxes in our community. I forgot to mention that in earlier post.
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  • Posted by Matcha 9 years, 2 months ago
    Any existing community will vet you before they let you in. In mine we already have a good structure. Also, while we use many things from the outside community it would be possible to maintain within the community. We have water and food within the community. Totally organic.
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  • Posted by Matcha 9 years, 2 months ago
    Hi Island Gultch, Hopefully this will be posted. I, like you, already live the life. I am on a mountain instead of an island. We are building a small hydro plant on the river on our property which should provide some income and well as free power for us.
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  • Posted by macnuth 9 years, 2 months ago
    One huge issue that has to be remembered is in the movie Galt invents a power supply that takes care of the energy needs of the community. Does anyone know of an energy supply that can do that?
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  • Posted by macnuth 9 years, 2 months ago
    Pitcairn Island would not be a good choice. The people who live there vote to include any one who wishes to move there. You can not just move there if you so desire, you have to request to be allowed to move there. It is very remote and too small for the number of people who will want to move there. Most, but not all the people who live there are Seventh-Day-Adventist, they worship God the Father, Jesus Christ the Son and Creator, and the Holy Spirit or the still small voice each of us have or had if you have not pushed it totally out of your life. They like their lifestyle and are careful of changes they allow to their way of life.

    I think if you really want to build a real live Gulch, then the idea a retaking control of an Island like Australia away from the new world order would be more in reality. They are the real problem for the whole world.
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  • Posted by ewv 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The legal situation is worse than you realize. It's a World Heritage Site and is managed by viros under their permissions for their idea of limited "sustainable" development. Any remote natural area on the planet is likely to be subject to the same scrutiny and restrictions.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't think the Gulch was interested in the outside world. The point was to disappear.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In AS many members of the Gulch were retired. So long as you buy your goods and services with gold you should be welcome.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Pitcairn would have it's problems. Remember Japan has virtually no natural resources and is an industrial nation. Pitcairn may just be too small.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Interesting idea. Pitcairn maybe too small and remote. Do you have a particular island in mind?
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  • Posted by aphelms 9 years, 2 months ago
    Logistically speaking, Pitcairn would be a nightmare. One of the main reasons the Bounty crew selected the island was that it had no easy anchorage. I don't think it has the harbor facilities necessary to bring in the heavy machinery that would be required to build the infrastructure needed to make the community self sustaining are available. It would require building an adequate harbor and then large runways for heavy cargo aircraft to accommodate the influxes of material, equipment, and manpower to build up the island. Nuclear power would invite unwanted attention from government agencies. Solar power might be a viable alternative. Pitcairn is not rich in mineral resources. Raw materials would have to be imported to make a steel mill and shipyard viable. However, the location is excellent and could be made into a viable community provided there is a lot of effort and capital to bring the project about.
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  • Posted by islandgultch 9 years, 2 months ago
    there are thousand of islands in the world, many far closer to the western hemisphere, many uninhabited. I actually live on one now (though inhabited) but it is one of 62 in this country. With enough people , easy enough to buy and live on.
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  • Posted by Cocobaby61 9 years, 2 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Seems like it would be smarter to consider the internet part of the infrastructure. It's the best way to stay in touch with the world, compete in the free market, etc.
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  • Posted by Dallyb 9 years, 2 months ago
    I'm interested in this but it would have to be another island that is bigger, that could be bought out right and stand alone as it own country. I would be willing to sell my current properties and businesses to invest in a well thought out project like this. Nearly $4,000,000 in assets.
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