'Committed Christian'? Obama's religious history unmasked

Posted by mdk2608 9 years, 3 months ago to Politics
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A follow-up to LetsShrug's post on Obama's prayer breakfast comments


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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes. And Idiocracy was more fun than Brazil or other serious dystopias. It let me relax and laugh at a msg that would otherwise be disturbing.
    BTW, I really did like the movie, not spamming or belitteing. Someone downvoted without saying why.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Seen it several times.

    While watching, I keep wondering 1) why I can't stop watching, and 2) is there is any reason it could/couldn't happen. Now that you mention it, it does seem like a comic version of Atlas Shrugged, 1984, Brazil, etc.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "the positive traits were no longer cherished and erotic traits succeeded, even though they are not PC."
    Have you seen the movie Idiocracy. It's a goofy comedy about that.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 3 months ago
    Hmmm, I have clothespins . . .
    For a happy birthday?
    Food for thought.
    (Pun intended).
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 3 months ago
    Thanks.
    I'd keep the onions (like them and read they are good for Type 2 diabetics) and not even buy potatoes (doctor said to avoid spuds).
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 9 years, 3 months ago
    To Thoritsu and Sumitch, please provide the publication date of the Koran you a reading from. You see the translation differ a bit from pre WWII and more current publications. The one I have is from 1939, translated from the origin old Arabic. It is called "ALKORAN OF MOHAMMED". It is in chapters without verse numbers. In chapter II, "The Cow" spends a great deal of pages of how a believer should behave, pray and know that all others are "idolators". If a true believer is attacked by an idolator that Gods Mercy is to dispatch the attacker to hell. God is in this translation is not called Allah.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Since I only get to have it one time a year, I don't have a set recipe, but just go out to the inter-web and find something that looks reasonable.

    Here's one that looks good - http://www.food.com/recipe/corned-beef-a...
    I'd drop out the onion (I hate onions) and the potatoes - they're merely filler in this recipe. The bay leaf, allspice, and cloves are necessary for the flavor. And the carrots and cabbage add the sweetness.
    I'm the only one in my house that will eat it. What can I say, the rest have no taste (although they all like it when I grill Fillet).
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  • Posted by Rocky_Road 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "How do you fix that corned beef and cabbage stew pot by the way? "

    My mother used a clothespin on her nose....
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As for the snipped-off points, I just can't stand by and look at that unless it has happened to CG or someone really writing something stupid or being a troll.
    I've helped other picked-on innocents here with that.
    Harrumph! Be assured that Capt. Allosaur shall carry on in that noble crusade. Oorah!
    For as Robin Williams said playing Popeye in that movie, "I have a sinsk of humiligration."

    How do you fix that corned beef and cabbage stew pot by the way?
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  • Posted by barwick11 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I used to say people who said that were nuts. But watching this guy, I'd put better than a 50/50 shot on him being a Muslim.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You make me laugh. Whomever is doing the down voting (I have my suspicions who's having the snit fit today) is just wasting their time. No need for you to waste any in trying to "correct" their error. The points really don't matter.

    As for the corned beef and cabbage, I love it. Can't get anyone else to eat any, so the stew pot that I make once a year lasts me for a couple of weeks.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I was not planning to. never have, can't recall if my dear departed mother ever did that, but it's an idea.
    Some mouse coward gave you a zero just above and and before your "Yes, not really lost, etc."
    I just did what I could with my own +1.
    I am peaches, I am cream.
    I'm the captain of the team.
    Yay me!
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I also like the doorway analogy.

    Just curious, having corned beef and cabbage on your birthday?
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I've interested in a Geneva Bible that King James is said to have altered for his, of course, King James Bible.
    I grew up with a Catholic Bible that Catholics were not encouraged to read. Each Sunday mass had a reading from an Epistle and a Gospel before the sermon was preached.
    When I moved away from home I also moved out of being a Catholic.
    I had a problem with Purgatory and praying for souls in it. I also had a problem with praying to Mary, angels, saints and dead relatives.
    My parents told me that the Church just needed to grow.
    I was all like, well, it already has had two thousand years.
    I learned a couple of years ago that the Catholic Church finally grew up enough to finally dump the Purgatory that was never even in the Catholic Bible.
    Whoopie!
    I'm still not going to go back and pray to Mary or even to St. Patrick on my same day birthday.
    I always wear green and brag about being a quarter Irish.
    Jesus is the door to God. That's all there is, folks. Neat and simple.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My buddies tell me if I like beer, I will eventually love scotch. I have a very open mind, but still can't get into scotch, just sweet whiskeys/bourbons.
    However, I'll gladly support your habit, if I can drink along, next time I'm in MKE!
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, not really lost, just not "acceptable" to whatever hierarchy was in place at the time. I disagree with all "editorializing" when it comes to "truth." Too often failing humans use their own desires as the filter to "truth."
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We've had this discussion before - Scottish whisky - better known as Scotch, is my preferred libation.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Love the Baywatch note! So true.

    Also agree that science and capitalism work. Why don't people make them more popular? Great question, and where Objectivism stalled.

    As Don Adams would say, "Would you believe the problems parallels the Ant and the Grasshopper motif?" The Klingon in me says that when natural selection stopped (a long time go for humans), the positive traits were no longer cherished and erotic traits succeeded, even though they are not PC. We humans are smart enough to recognize success, but like paddling a canoe from the back, it is easy to coast.

    Even better, feel good by participating in an institution where the ants support the grasshoppers! ...Feels so good...

    Because we lack external limits or controls, we settle with sloth and lethargy...except the few that are self-driven. These successful are despised by the others (back to the force the ants theme).

    Unfortunately, all this seems natural to me, except for the absence of limits, but the gothic conclusion also seems natural. I would love to be able to objectify this problem and get people seeking controls to limit it...or we wait for the second coming of the invisible pink unicorn.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The Christian (well, Protestant as it ended up being called) reformation was not done by the Pope, but rather a local priest who found that the church hierarchy had strayed from the tenets of the faith.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "I think this could work, and what a position for the US to take!"
    I agree with you. I wonder if there's some way to reach the average people. Baywatch reached the average person, which gets people's attention but can used to show how decadent the secular world is. The thing I don't get is science and capitalism *deliver the goods*. Do people want have thousands of on-demand video show? They can debate whether the shows should be porno or religious programming, but science and capitalism are what delivers them. I wonder if most average people see these Islamists taking over their country and say, "you teenage fools. Science and capitalism makes things happen. Your policy just aggrandizes you and fires up war-hungry teenage fools in foreign land and that's until some combatant kills you. You could instant learn to do something productive and enough for a nice iPod to spread the word of god to your friends or just do whatever you want."

    Science and capitalism work. I don't understand why they're not universally popular.
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