Another Strategy to Enact Positive Change

Posted by Rozar 10 years, 5 months ago to Culture
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If you skip to the 39 minute part you'll be about to enter the actual strategy. I'd highly recommend watching the whole thing, it's even somewhat entertaining.



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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 10 years, 5 months ago
    I am sorry that I wasted time with this, waiting for the magic answer. If you tell one of your slave friends that they are complicit in the evil of the state, then what?

    In his own way, he is evidence of a deeper problem. Molyneux is telling a passive array of listeners what to do. And they sit and listen to his tangents. Given that the audience shares his premises (libertarian politics), he could have said this in one minute at the beginning. If he had written it, they could have read it faster than he spoke it.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We both know that because something is illegal doesn't mean it is moral or immoral. Killing is not evil obviously.

    But murder is extinguishing an individual consciousness against there will and without provocation. I do make the distinction between murder and self defense.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    No, but I would be willing to use force against others to make them obey my will, if I felt it necessary to do so.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Murder is a crime.

    Killing is either evil or not evil. If you wish not to kill, enjoy your diet of fruits and nuts.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Well, that essay by Heinlein sums it up, pretty well. "Moral" behavior is that which tends to survival of the species, which is largely dependent on individual survival, most of the time.

    In one science fiction anthology, there was a story called "We Hold These Rights", by Henry Melton. A loose society had formed in the asteroid belt, and Earth had decided to take control, which included shipping people back to Earth. The main characters were on a ship assigned the job of destroying a navigation beacon.

    Two of the characters were all patriotic in defending their "rights". The third crewman they thought a coward, because they couldn't understand how he thought (people here would "get" him, though...)

    There's an Earth patrol ship they have no hope of whipping guarding the beacon. The "coward" locks himself in the engine room, and orders the other two to plot a course away from the beacon as fast as they can. They're forced to comply, and as they're blasting away from the beacon, it, and the patrol ship are blown to hell by the energy surge the "coward" had bounced off of Jupiter.

    When they try to apologize, he freaks out and shouts (this is from memory) "I destroyed a beacon worth more than I'll earn in my entire life! I had no *right* to do so! I did it because I had a reasonable chance to get away with it, and I didn't want to see the Earthmen run the belt anymore than you did. But I had no *right*. Rights don't exist! There's only power and action. Clement Ster, if you have to lie, cheat, steal or kill, then do so, but have the guts to take responsibility for your actions!"

    It made me think, and realize that rights can't originate with men. Rights are a convenient fiction, unless they are given us by a higher power, such as the Creator. They're a convenient fiction for governing how men interact with one another.

    Rearden was quite wrong it questioning the court's "right" to try him; the court had no "right" to try him, since only individual humans have rights, not courts. But, it did have the *authority* to try him, granted it by the existing government. Whether that government itself had the power to grant that authority is another argument.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I remember you posting this before, or at least seeing it on this site.

    I'd like to hear your views on right and wrong sometime.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Would you be willing to use force against others to make them follow your definition of good and evil?
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  • Posted by 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Lol yes he is an anarchist. And he wasn't complaining about throwing the e-bomb but advocating it. Murder is either evil, or it is not. It can't be moral for some and evil for others.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 5 months ago
    Oh and he mentions Rand somewhere near the beginning which I thought everyone would appreciate.
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