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My dad grew up poor... his dad was a mechanic in his own garage behind their tiny house (the garage was bigger than the house).. my grandpa was well known and was always busy because did good work and never charged much (the depression and all)... whenever the family was having a good time doing something that cost nothing or next to nothing he would smile and say "I wonder what the poor people are doing?" And then my dad said it to us all the time... when we were at the family cabin with no indoor plumbing or electricity playing board games or when we were floating around our above ground pool he scored for 50 bucks and had for 20 years... stuff like that. Fun on the cheap in my family always sparks someone saying that. My husband said it tonight at dinner... it was a holiday splurge for us. My grandpa also used to say "business is good. What I don't make in profit I make up for in volume." Busy and broke. Remind me sometime to tell you about their trip to Indiana...their attempted trip to Indiana.
Sounds a lot like my childhood. We never discussed being poor, we just took advantage of what we had and thought that was OK. Later in life, we could say "I've had worse, and called it good." I had a bike that was put together from multiple other bikes. It worked fine, and I peddled my butt all over the city on it. I had more fun with that almost-a-Schwinn than I did with a 10 speed later in life.
Short story - My family has always lived near the water - from my Grandfather forward (until my generation) SF Bay, before that, Eureka... Anyway, every so often, my dad would go down to the wharf (before it was the huge tourist trap it became), and pick up a huge variety of shellfish, and make this amazing Cioppino... the funny thing is, back then, it was good, cheap food. Now, IF you find it in a restaurant, it's not only pricey, but not as good as the homemade stew dad made. (Yes, I still have the family recipe... and no, you can't have it! --grins--)
We used to get by on nothing, because that's just how things were. If it couldn't be done on the cheap, then it just wasn't done. I still remember the "big lifetime vacation" we took - a road trip to Disneyland back in the 60's - in the old station wagon. Good times.
run for your life from any man that tells you money is evil
I am looking forward to meeting your dad. in the meantime....and yum, MUSSELS I like them with baby green beans garnished on the top and extra garlic bread on the side....
when force is the standard the pickpocket wins over you. you against them and them against you...so many great important concepts here.....
It's a great saying, by the way.
the best that we could, and I did learn to despise
margarine! . milk and butter were delivered by
the truck with the insulated box on the back, and
boy were they fresh!!! -- j
God said . . . .same thing as Darwin. Birds are dinosaurs, should be a hint.
But the liberals keep putting the unfit first, against us. The birds are waiting for a small enough bite, and the dinosaurs are waiting for the modern day scientists to clone them from the woolly mammoth; or T Rex.
It will be just like the Jurassic Park original motion picture. :)
And thank God for the Mickey Mouse stuffed animal.
Define Poor. Poor in money well that is totally a perspective thing. Poor in happiness, again that is based on personal perspective. Anytime people say poor, I demand they give me a specific definition of what "poor" is, and by what perspective.
In the United States even the proclaimed "poorest" have one common health issue. Obesity. These same obese "poor" also have air-conditioned homes, cell phones, cable tv, usually big screen TV's, cars and more "stuff than I do as a "working person.
Poor in other countries means your mal-nourished, no roof over your head, and on the verge of starving to death.
So please define for me poor, in very specific terms when looking at poverty on a GLOBAL scale.
I agree with your comment about the word "poor" being abused in this country... the supposed "poor" in this country have all the gadgets devices, big screen tvs etc (things I don't have either), and moms who's kids are on the free lunch program at school drive SUV's and carry designer purses and wear designer jeans... it all makes me sick that this is accepted and has become the norm. However, my little story on this post was for fun..a memory...over a good meal and a rare evening out for us. "Poor" back in the 30's can't be compared to the "poor" of today...and none of it can be compared to poverty in 3rd world countries. Now, if you like to further the discussion of why third world countries ARE poor I encourage you to start a new post. (hint, it's related to the amount of freedom allowed by the powers that be..and our freedoms are being striped daily...so where do you think we are headed? "Equality" in starvation...everything is "fair" when noone has ANYthing.)
"Oh, you have horses. You must be rich."
"No, perhaps we could have been rich. Instead we have horses."
I feel your pain
And now your responding to your own comments with "I see your point" and "I feel your pain"??
I call troll!
Ayn Rand, in the end, needed govt help. Why did none of her supporters come to her aid ?
And why in the areas of the country that have the highest concentration of wealth, where there are more Rand supporters than any other places, did they not show the movie ?
At the time, I was in S.C., Hilton Head, and they had a terrible movie, showing in 3 theathers, but would not show Atlas Shrugged, even though there is a huge base of people that live the ideals who live there. When I asked the independent theather why they were not showing it, I was told they were asked not to.
They did not elaberate as to who asked them not to, but I can guess.
No one should be FORCED to 'help' the "less fortunate'.. by the way, the term 'less fortunate' is emotional hog wash. If you WANT to help someone, then help them, no one is going to stop you, but don't attempt to FORCE me to do the same. I will determine if and when I want to 'help' someone on my own terms. THAT is FREEDOM.
Myth! Ayn Rand did not need gov help in the end. (another false narrative). She did receive social security, like every other American who reaches a certain age... why shouldn't she? She paid loads into the system throughout her successful life. She never sanctioned government theft of her earnings and she was only getting some of her own money back. Stop believing all the lies out there.
I know this to be fact. I have seen things I can't talk about, because of non-disclosure, and it is scary how little is paid by the 1%. On everything they own, from the companies they own and run, to the money they don't pay the illegal help.
This is my last response to you... "give into the system" "equally" "common good"... you're a leftist (which means a socialist, communist), which means a waste of my time.