Are American Bankers the Jews of 1938 Germany?

Posted by airfredd22 10 years, 5 months ago to Economics
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Could this be the future of the United States Banking and Economic System? The political system in Venezuela is just slightly in front of us at the rate and direction our administration ia moving.

Are American Bankers the Jews of 1938 Germany?

On November 9th and 10th, 1938 the German Nazi government under Adolph Hitler ordered the attack on the Jewish population of Germany and Austria and confiscated or destroyed their property.

Are there similarities between that occurrence and the Obama administration demonizing of the American Bankers?

Is the Obama administration planning to do the same thing? I don’t believe so at this time but denunciation of the Jewish population was only the beginning. The reason the Nazi’s used this particular tactic was that they needed a common enemy to focus the populations’ hatred on.

There is a similar tactic used today against the management of financial institutions. They make too much money. They don’t care about their customers. They’re only in profit for themselves. They are destroying the country.

Let’s examine who the real owners of American financial institutions are.

The majority of stock held in banks and Wall Street institutions are held by mutual and retirement funds. Those funds represent millions of private citizens. Only a small percentage is owned by the executives of financial institutions.

When the administration demonizes “Bankers and Wall Street,” they are in fact demonizing you, the public who are the majority owners. I will agree that in some cases it seems that management of these “Wall Street Firms” and the management of banks are being overpaid, especially when they are creating losses. What is not mentioned in the speeches given by the President and administration officials is that the people who receive what they claim are excessive compensation are contractually required bonuses for making a profit for their divisions.

Let us not forget that contracts between two parties are in fact property rights and property rights are protected by the U.S. Constitution. The only parties who have a right to dictate compensation are the stockholders of a corporation.

Even though the administration committed billions of dollars to “financial institution bailouts,” they may not change the terms of a contract retroactively. That can only be done legally by renegotiating a contract.

What is the purpose of these attacks upon management? Just like in Germany of the 1930’s it is to misdirect the true cause of the problems existing in the economy and targeting the management of financial institutions as being evil.

In reality the economy can only function if a streamlined financial system exists. The public deposits money in banks and invests in Wall Street in order to create a profit for themselves. Pursuing this self-interest provides the basic cash flow for an economy to grow. Banks collect money, pay interest to the saver and lends out the money to businesses and buyers of major products such as homes and automobiles. Without this system of financing, the economy could not grow.

We can find many faults with how the financial sector operates, but that is a part of the financial system. Those companies that operate within the rules of the capitalistic system will prosper, and those that do not will eventually go bankrupt. No bailouts and let true capitalism work.

Fred Speckmann


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  • Posted by 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Re: Maphesdus,
    I must agree with almost all your points. You may have slightly misunderstood my point re: the bankers in 1938 Germany. I'm certainly not defending any bankers who commit fraud and I'm including all financial institutions when I use the generic meaning of bankers.

    It is the constand blame game of Obama in order to appeal to the low information public that I was talking about. I would agree that many of those bankers should be in jail for fraud. Of course Obama is using his rhetoric to pit one section of the population against the other.

    By the way, in the 70's during the Savings and Loan fiasco, it was the same problem, the government forced to Savings and Loans to write down the value of most of the bonds they were holding. In fact the value was much higher than the prices they were able to get in forced sales. Remember that Jim Wright, democrat Congressman from Texas who became speaker of the house and one of the most corrupt representatives of his day. He forced through the increase in insurance for the Savings and Loans so that they could sell Jumbo Certificate of deposits to each other and made many a developer very rich. Of course as with all schemes, sooner or later people catch on.

    The bottom line is that the moment politicians who are dumber than most people, after all most of them are lawyers, get involved in dictating the actions for the economy, disaster follows.

    Other than the above you are right on the money.

    Fred Speckmann
    commonsenseforamericans@yahoo.com
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  • Posted by 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I would say that during the campaigns the financial industry tends to think they own the politicians, but once they get in power, they double-cross the banks and spend their time perpetuating their power. Once they're in, it becomes more a question of extortion.

    Fred
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  • Posted by 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are correct that contract law means little to the current administration. I would add that Constitutional law means absolutely nothing to this administration and to President Obama, the "Constitutional lawyer and professor in particular.

    Fred
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  • Posted by KDanagger 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Perhaps is is better to say that politicians and the big banks are partners in crime.
    Thomas Jefferson warned about the dangers of the banking institutions to our liberties in numerous quotes. So did Charles Lindbergh, Louis T McFadden, and many others.

    Ultimately, the corrupt politicians who are seduced by the lure of dishonest fiat currency are equally to blame. The politicians may have all the guns, but who is more guilty, the hit-man or the person who hires the hit-man?

    "The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson." - Franklin D. Roosevelt
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  • Posted by 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Very little disagreement on my part. However I would hold both parties responsible. The corrupt politicians as well as the corrupt mega banking industry. We differ slightly as to who owns whom. I believe more in that the corrupt politicians are the ones with the ultimate power. They own the guns and the IRS, not to mention that they have the power to interfere with free enterprise by regulation that is even more lethal than laws.

    Thank you for your comment,

    Fred
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  • Posted by 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree that many, especially the big national banks easily fall into that category. I would suggest that small businesses do business with their small local banks. I can remember times when small businesses could get small loans (under $10,000) on their signature and a handshake. Sadly, those times are over. Bankers are now hindered by too many regulations and CYA is the rule of the day.

    Fred Speckmann
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  • Posted by 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I agree with you that people will always find a way to invest their money. My piece wasn't meant to make excuses for bankers or investment firms, but to point out the similarities between 1938 Hitler and the NAZI's and Obamas administration and their constant scapegoating the financial sector in order to shift blame for their failed policies.

    I too find our present financial system to be filled with corruption especially when it concerns lending to mortgages and small businesses.

    Thank you for your comment.

    Fred Speckmann
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  • Posted by KDanagger 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Let me make my meaning more clear - the banking cartel needs to be exterminated - not the individuals involved. However, the individuals should be tried for their criminal activity, and suffer the appropriate punishment.
    As far as this administration is concerned - the banking cartel owns it - as they have almost every administration in the past 100 years. Any "punishment" directed at the banking industry is an insignificant token act to seduce the people into believing that government is protecting them. In reality, the government needs to get the hell out of the way to allow the market to crush these criminals, so that honest banking - with honest money - can re-emerge.

    Civility? In any compromise between good and evil, it is only evil that can profit.

    Fractional reserve lending and fiat currency are inherently dishonest and criminal.

    "The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the people versus the banks." - Lord Acton
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  • Posted by lostsierra 10 years, 5 months ago
    I think most of them are the Jews of America, 2013, and the critics refer not to the shareholders but to the managing executive. I refuse to deal with the Big 5 Banks and my wife and I do business with two small local banks. I have no sympathy for the fascist big banks. Throw the execs in prison. Their manipulation and naked short selling for the Fed. guvmint and Fed Res is criminal enough. Note: I am a gold mine owner and have suffered financial damages from these thugs.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Re: KDanagger's comment,
    I'm troubled by your hopefully hyperbolic call for banker extermination. No matter how you meant it, it's the kind of statement that I find unacceptable in a forum like this. Let us not forget that civility is a positive trait and should be encouraged. It is also the best way to be persuasive.

    Having said that, please understand that I am not defending corrupt bankers and investment firms.

    My purpose is to draw attention to the similarities between the actions of Hitler and the Nazi Party and the treatment of businesses in general and financial businesses especially by this administration.

    We are traveling a path toward dictatorship, although sugarcoated by the mainstream media, until it's too late. As Americans we have the dangerous belief that we could not possibly suffer such a fate. Let's learn from history.

    Fred
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  • Posted by KDanagger 10 years, 5 months ago
    Today's financial sector is completely dominated by Federal Reserve cartel of banks - it is corrupt to the core. Even the local banks and credit unions are forced to participate in the corruption because we lost all vestiges of honest money over 40 years ago.

    The only way that a banker can be an honest agent of free-market capitalism would be if they lent honest money (gold-silver) - not these gov't mandated IOU's which we have been forced to call "money".
    When they force me to accept a loan of gov't corrupted fiat - created out of thin air - in exchange for my talent and labor, that's not exchanging value for value. That is an indirect theft of a part of my life.
    They are the enemy of the freedom of all men, and they dominate the financial market by their total control of gov't force. Make no mistake - they control all the politicians, lawmakers, and military.

    Galt, Francisco, and Ragnar would all agree. They need to be exterminated.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thank you for your comment. There are a couple of points where we differ. Germany after WW I certainly lost much of its economic power, inflation was unbelievable and people were literally using wheelbarrows full of money to buy basic necessities. Zimbabwe's inflation had nothing on them.

    Until the 1930's however, Germany treated the Jews better than any other European country, that's not to say there wasn't discrimination and even what we would now call prejudice against Jews. However they were relatively safe and could conduct business as they wished.

    I agree that many investors took great losses in the 1990's but by definition an investment can go up or down. There was plenty of fraud to be sure, but that was caused by regulations as much as by criminals. Government involvement in the economy will always lead to disaster.

    Oversight to a limited degree, yes, but open competition is always the best insurance.

    Fred
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    " Hating Jews was pretty common place in Europe at the time,"

    As it is again, thanks to Moslem immigration.
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  • Posted by LionelHutz 10 years, 5 months ago
    It is an interesting comparison. Here's the way I see it. Germany was intentionally hyperinflating their currency pre-WWII to pay off war debts. This financial policy brought ruin to the common man. Many German bankers were Jewish. It wasn't their policy to print all that money, but they were the public face of the banks and made a convenient target. Likewise, today we are printing tons of money, though it hasn't (yet) brought ruin to the common man. You might be right that Obama will eventually try to scapegoat them for HIS policies. However, Hitler was an outsider in the political system of Germany at the time he made his accusations, during his rise to power. Obama IS the policy maker. If history repeats itself, one might more expect to see another political figure, an outsider, make the accusation.

    The largest investment banks (Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, etc) are totally in bed with the Federal Reserve banks and by association the federal government. They are gaming the system because they are the recipients of basically free (newly minted) money given to them to "stimulate" the economy or to cover their idiotic investment losses. They should not be viewed the same way as your home town bank that has to offer you interest to get your money and then has to wisely invest it to generate the interest. Though Obama may rail against the bankers, have you noticed how many have been prosecuted for misconduct by his Attorney General? No...I think he's railing against the people that have money. It's that simple with him. He's a Marxist, and people with money (that are not government people) are the enemy. That's his entire worldview: you didn't build that, it's not yours, and I'll be taking it now in the name of all those who don't have it. It doesn't matter if you're a Goldman Sachs banker or Joe the Plumber. If you're successful, you're in the gun sights.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The destruction of our economy is the point.
    We have to be pulled down to the perverted view of equality with which these perverts are obsessed.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't doubt all that much that Obama wants to redistribute the wealth and if a little falls of the table along the way, he wouldn't be totally against that. For an example we need look no further than the salary his wife received from the hospital she "worked"at when Obama became a state Senator. or the future speaking fees he will receive when leaving office.

    His redistribution scheme is however dependent upon the destruction of our economy.

    Fred Speckmann
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  • Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 10 years, 5 months ago
    Contract law means little to the current regime. Just look at the auto bailouts as an example.

    I agree with Lionel that there's a lot of cronyism going on with the investment banks and it all sticks. I also agree that obama wants to take money from the rich...the rich that aren't his buddies. He's not planning on turning over any of his for redistribution.
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  • Posted by 10 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You are correct in broadening your net as to whom Obama will attack. However, he was an outsider until he got the backing of wealthy and influential people that although wealthy, few of them earned their own wealth. They either inherited or married it and therefore have little understanding of capitalism that allowed the creation of that wealth.

    At the same time e can easily place the label of moocher upon the wealthy who support Obama as they are now securing the administrations protection while attacking the real self-made men and women.

    Fred Speckmann
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