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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 5 months ago
    "Ayn Rand rejected most of the conventional categories into which philosophical and political positions are supposed to be sorted, and this rejection of false alternatives is a major theme of her work. "

    "Incidentally, this is why most parodies of Ayn Rand end up seeming so lame. "

    "In Ayn Rand’s novels, all the heroes are rich and the bad guys are poor, right?
    It’s closer to the opposite."
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 5 months ago
    One of the concepts that had a powerful impact on me is (paraphrasing) if you think of yourself as a hero, you'll seek a heroine for a mate. I found that in order to think of myself as a hero, I needed to acquire much different knowledge and attitude, and it was the beginning of what was for me, a transformation.
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    • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 5 months ago
      it's why I worked so damned hard at school, then
      at work, and tried to learn all that I could about
      everything worthwhile ... for her, whoever she
      might be, to join me in enjoying it all. . worked!!! -- j

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      • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 5 months ago
        It does work. The only problem is that heroes and heroines are not always readily apparent.
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        • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 5 months ago
          oh, no! they hide in plain sight, like the truck driver
          and his mate in the black-out cab, the waitress
          with her husband who works at sears changing
          tires and batteries, and the CEO who appears to be
          single, but who meets with his small business owner
          wife on weekends when everyone thinks that he
          is slaving away in the penthouse over P&L and
          marketing study reports. . they are everywhere!!! -- j

          p.s. proof? the nov4 vote.

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          • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 5 months ago
            So they are. Not as many as there should be, but enough to hold the earth up.
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            • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 5 months ago
              well said! . if only "we" could join forces better!!! -- j

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              • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 5 months ago
                The com/soc/prog have been doing it for at least 120 years. But they have had full time Alinskys to drive them. Our problem is that we are busy creating tomorrow while they work full time creating the past. Rand was making a point in A.S. but it cannot be done in one generation. It will take many years of dedication to return the USA to freedom. Unless, of course, you forget about America and concentrate on Atlantis.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 5 months ago
    I saw The Fountainhead as a Netflix snail-mail DVD about two weeks ago.
    Spoiler alert!
    I loved that worker's elevator scene at the end when the star-crossed lovers were at last uncrossed on the highest building of the world.
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  • Posted by $ jlc 9 years, 5 months ago
    I would phrase it differently, since I think of 'love' as a type of romantic relationship that easily transcends philosophies. (I observe this; I would not personally want a man for a lover who was out of synch with me philosophically.) Saying 'all he wants is love' makes the putative hero seem like a needy puppy...not my idea of a hero.

    I would say that 'What a Rand hero really wants is to be amongst members of his own 'species'.' This is why we congregate here in The Gulch. To be able to talk to our own tribe.

    Jan
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 5 months ago
    what's it all for? . the poetry of a man and a woman
    sweating all over one another, making a child and
    staying together to raise her, or him, to additional success! -- j

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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 5 months ago
    This is one of my favorite articles I've read about Ayn Rand.
    It made me think about Peter Keating in the Fountainhead. Why doesn't he want Toohey to stay after Toohey admits to undermining achievement just because he can? Maybe all Keating wants is love and friendship too, but he went about getting it the wrong way.
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    • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 4 months ago
      I meant why *does* Peter want Toohey to stay even after Toohey admits to being evil. Maybe it's b/c the evil form of altruism took his g/f away, and Toohey represents that evil altruism. I don't know. I couldn't understand why Peter cared about Toohey.
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      • Posted by khalling 9 years, 4 months ago
        1. Peter has no independent judgement. He needs approval. Toohey has been the standard to his importance
        2. Toohey has had the power to make or break his career.
        3. Peter doesn 't value himself enough to have valued his relationship with Toohey 's niece
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        • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 4 months ago
          Thank you.
          1. Yes. He needs approval or at least some reaction. Toohey is the master of manipulative influence.
          2. I thought his career was hopelessly broken by that point. I don't remember if he had any hope of coming back.
          3. I didn't understand why he was acting like that and only vaguely understood he and Toohey treated her that way or why it caused her bizarre change in personality. He and Toohey are amazing villains, much scarier than tough-guy villains.
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