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    Posted by Zenphamy 9 years, 4 months ago
    WTH!! Mr. control freak policeman, your rules have been in existence for over 200 years. It's called the 4th Amendment to the Constitution of the US and it's to be based on probable cause. Don't like it, get another job.
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 9 years, 4 months ago
    The anti-gunners will never get it. Gun possession does not lead to violence. The culture, absence of two-parent homes, lack of education, lack of economic opportunity propel these kids toward violence. If their guns were confiscated, then switch blades, baseball bats, and two-by-fours would be used instead.
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    • Posted by LetsShrug 9 years, 4 months ago
      Yeah...it would make more sense if they asked for people to voluntarily have their houses searched for the lack of ability to think for oneself, moral contradictions, A not equaling A, having your cake and eating it too, blank out...and willful ignorance.
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      • Posted by j_IR1776wg 9 years, 4 months ago
        Yes we are witnessing the end of the Age of Reason. It didn't die of old age, it was murdered. Crushed to death by a tsunami of humans deliberately taught not to think. Sic transit gloria Aristotle.
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  • Posted by Animal 9 years, 4 months ago
    Some (OK, many) years back I was a teenage boy visiting in a couple of towns over, on the prowl for teenage girls. I was pulled over by one of the local cops on the pretext that I had a burnt-out taillight (I did) but mostly because I had Allamakee county plates and was driving around in Howard county.

    In other words, the local cop saw a car and a kid he didn't recognize, so he pulled me over to find out what I was up to.

    In the course of the stop he asked if he could take a look in my trunk. I said "No."

    "Have you got something in there you don't want me to find?"

    "No."

    "Then why don't you want me to look?"

    "Because I don't have to. If you think I'm doing something illegal, arrest me."

    He wrote me a citation from my burnt-out taillight and told me in no uncertain terms to get out of town. He saw me driving around later that night, still in his town, even made eye contact - and he did nothing. He knew he couldn't make me leave town, and he knew I knew it.

    If I could stand up to a small-town jumped-up Barney Fife at seventeen, the people of Beloit sure as hell should stand up to the statist assholes who are proposing to search their homes without cause. This isn't Russia. This isn't China. We still have a Fourth Amendment.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 4 months ago
    Just wait until they invite you to accuse your neighbors of having an unregistered gun...

    This is a policy that can not end well.
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    • Posted by wiggys 9 years, 4 months ago
      i can't imagine the thinking on the part of the honest gun owners there about the police chief. he should go to kennesaw georgia where the police chief wants everyone to own a gun. very low crime rate there.
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 9 years, 4 months ago
    Is this Jacobs out of his mind? He needs to go to some OTHER country without this thing called the Constitution. Did he somehow skip Civics in High School? Lie through the psych eval for becoming a cop? Brainwashed to be a libtard puppet?

    Cops like him are DANGEROUS. That he's the Chief of Police is downright SCARY. I wouldn't go within 100 MILES of a place where the cops are run by a anti-American Anti-constitution-honoring Oath-breaking psycho.
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    • Posted by strugatsky 9 years, 4 months ago
      "Did he somehow skip Civics in High School? Lie through the psych eval for becoming a cop? Brainwashed to be a libtard puppet?" - Ah, Susanne, you have just described a perfect New Amerikan Police Chief. He only needs a gender change procedure to apply for Cathy Lenier's job.

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  • Posted by wiggys 9 years, 4 months ago
    This police chief is a very stupid man. He should be relieved of his job, i.e. fired.
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    • Posted by Eyecu2 9 years, 4 months ago
      Sorry but I disagree. The very stupid person is the person who takes him up on his offer.

      I can offer to empty your bank account for you. If you are dumb enough to invite me to do it then you deserve to have no money.
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  • Posted by Randman80 9 years, 4 months ago
    I think they are aiming at parents who are afraid that their kids have acquired a fire arm and want the police to handle it rather having than confronting a gun toting teen themselves. I am ONLY explaining what I think the intent is! Never volunteer to a search.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 4 months ago
    The police asking for volunteers to have their homes searched? What can this mean? Well, it has to be one or more of the following:
    The police are incredibly arrogant.
    The police are incredibly stupid.
    The residents are incredibly stupid.
    Any combination of the above.
    But any rational resident will simply say, "What? are you crazy? Get lost."
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 4 months ago
    Even if we take the request at face value, law-abiding residents will know more about finding hidden guns in their own homes than an officer. People hiding guns will not volunteer. So it makes no sense. Maybe the police chief felt pressure to do _something_ in response to the shootings, even if it sounds stupid.
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    • Posted by LetsShrug 9 years, 4 months ago
      You're like the king of excuse making for people's stupid decisions.. Maybe maybe maybe... gah! There is no excuse for this! and this wasn't about 'hidden' guns, it's about having guns in your house you don't know about...And when has a toy gun been altered into a real gun? wtf is this guy even talking about? If someone has a gun in their house and doesn't know it... I can't even finish this sentence it's so stupid.
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      • Posted by $ Mimi 9 years, 4 months ago
        Tamir Rice, the 12 year-old black boy killed recently by a policeman for wielding a toy gun that had been stripped of it’s markers identifying it as a toy. We changed the laws some twenty years ago to make toy manufacturers identify with markings ( bright stickers and such) their realistic play-weapons, but this toy was altered to look real. Tamir Rice is a one reason some people are protesting about the police. The cop was barely out of his car when he shot this boy.
        I get where CG is coming from. Fire departments often go into people's homes to look at fireplaces and electrical outlets as a public service. This is just a spin on that idea. The article mentioned several incidents of kids having guns without their parent's knowledge. Not every parent is exercising their 2nd amendment right and may feel more comfortable about asking a policeman to look for the guns their kids might be hiding or maybe looking at the kid’s toy guns. It’s still a very big mistake to cooperate with a program like this because it does require people to waive their fourth amendment rights frivolously.
        At least, I think that’s what CG meant.
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  • Posted by NealS 9 years, 4 months ago
    Can I call the police to come and search my house for those keys I lost some years ago? I'm also missing some other things like a pair of glasses, and some fishing gear.

    Can I have them search my neighbors house to see if he's got my missing fishing gear?

    A long, long, time ago I search my 14 year olds room and found a bag full of Mercedes hood ornaments. That was just before my sister in law turned me in to CPS. I apologize for him if you were ever missing one. Thank God, he got over it.
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  • Posted by $ Mimi 9 years, 4 months ago
    The rational being used is teenagers are obtaining guns that their parents don’t know about. They put out a few factual stories with the public request to make the connection. It’s like telling parents they are responsible for knowing whether or not their children are on drugs by searching their children's room, but, in this instance, the search will be conducted by authorities offering their ‘police’ expertise to do the job for the parent. The NRA and gun advocates better very careful how they frame their argument against this offer because it could backfire.
    This was a dangerously clever way to get around ‘probable cause’; they are appealing to a parent’s concern over their children’s safety.
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  • Posted by $ winterwind 9 years, 3 months ago
    What I like is the pronouncement of “Pretty much all those kids and young men just need to be is educated [the ones involved in violent acts]. Ummm, I know it's hard to get an education at a public school, but it can be done - but the student has to be involved somewhere in the process.
    thus, young men = thugs
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  • Posted by frodo_b 9 years, 4 months ago
    >[Jacobs] said that there’s also a chance they’ll find guns linked to crimes... “That's really what we're looking for,” he said. “Maybe we'll find a toy gun that's been altered by a youngster in the house — and we know the tragedies that can occur there on occasion.”

    I'll bet he and the entire police department are just salivating over the prospect of finding a gun linked to a crime in someone's house. Asset Forfeiture! Woot! Come on baby, Beloit PD needs a new margarita machine...
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 4 months ago
    Statistically swimming pools are responsible for 52 times as many accidental deaths to children than guns... Maybe this police chief is sharp enough to find the swimming pools... but I doubt it.
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 4 months ago
    this is like volunteering to have a body cavity search
    for drugs, just for fun. . what kind of perversion can
    come up with stuff like this??? -- j

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