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In Memoriam,, 2023, by Robert Gore

Posted by straightlinelogic 11 months, 3 weeks ago to Government
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On Memorial Day, America remembers and honors those who died while serving in the military. It is altogether fitting and proper to ask: for what did they die? Do the rationales offered by the military and government officials who decide when and how the US will go to war, and embraced by the public, particularly those who lose loved ones, stand up to scrutiny and analysis? Some will recoil, claiming it inappropriate on a day devoted to honoring the dead. However, it is because war is a matter of life and death, for members of the military and inevitably civilians, that its putative justifications be subject to the strictest tests of truth and the most probing of analyses.

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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 11 months, 1 week ago
    My father served in the Merchant Marines on Liberty and Victory ships during WW2. He had seen ships in convoy sunk by German U-Boats.
    Every Memorial Day I post on FB a short memorial statement with photos or artwork regarding the Merchant Mariners who served on US Liberty Ships during WW2 supplying our and allied soldiers fighting against the Nazi tyranny and who lost their lives when German U-Boats sank their ships.
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  • Posted by term2 11 months, 2 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    maybe its only in the other animal world where their maternal instincts make them the most dangerous sex. As to Israel, their safety is SO tenuous that everyone fights and kills if needed.

    I think its pretty stupid to protect taiwan and ukraine by going into debt which makes the USA less able to defend itself if needed.
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 11 months, 2 weeks ago
    The definition of a Just War, to me...
    Is one in which I would gladly sacrifice MY LIFE, or MY CHILDREN to obtain the outcome.

    Currently the only Just War I can see... Is the destruction/abolition of the Deep State.
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 11 months, 2 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, this is truly a tight rope to walk.

    We need a military that is strong, fierce and feared. Thank you for your sacrifices.

    The fact that there is corruption, was corruption, and ALWAYS WILL BE corruption. Does not, and SHOULD NEVER be directed towards those who have sacrificed. Whether they were drafted, volunteered, or indirectly impacted...

    Everyone is a precious loss I wish we did not incur.

    I apologize, on behalf of the corrupt for adding to that burden, and wish ONLY TO SHAME THEM, not you, yours, or those brave men/women that served.

    This is why we need a President Trump back... And to stop the wars.
    And to change our position about how easily we put our children's lives on the line.
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  • Posted by AmericanWoman 11 months, 2 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    Women are not violent they are reasonable and reason never enters discussions of war and strife....women do go to war...they do fight for their country...every male and female Isrealie does and they do NOT complain.
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  • Posted by term2 11 months, 2 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    I used to be proud to be an American until Biden and the left took over. Now I am embarrassed to be an American and watch the left destroy what I loved about this country
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  • Posted by term2 11 months, 2 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    women are the most violent of the sexes I think. I think they would go to war also.
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  • Posted by term2 11 months, 2 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    I get it if you are defending your own freedom. But the wars the USA seems to fight are foreign wars for nefarious ends for the most part. If some foreign soldier comes up my street wanting to kill me or infringe on me, they better look out.

    But, if a Chinese soldier invades ukraine or taiwan, I say that's THEIR problem. I am already slowing down trade with communist countries and will stop it completely as soon as I can. I am not going to help communism expand, but taiwan and ukraine need to protect themselves.
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  • Posted by term2 11 months, 2 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    I am not an expert on wars, but my impression is that no one actually wins a war. Everyone loses, some more than others.
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  • Posted by term2 11 months, 2 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    all governments are inherently evil, with some of them going way beyond that (like communist, dictatorships, nazi, etc). As far as I am concerned, I wouldn't fight on behalf of our government either, as it isn't trustworthy to say the least.
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  • Posted by term2 11 months, 2 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    they fought because the government said for them to. they died on behalf of the government's goals.
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  • Posted by term2 11 months, 2 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    It is what it is. I sure don't understand what we got out of vietnam war, or Afghanistan war for that matter. There are arguments for WW2 that are hard to refute.
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  • Posted by term2 11 months, 2 weeks ago
    I think the ones that vote for war, should participate in it. The ones that approve of government spending on programs should supply the funds for them.
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  • Posted by jimslag 11 months, 2 weeks ago
    These so-called wars have consequences. Yes we went into Iraq and took out Saddam Hussein but he was effectively a harmless token of himself after we kicked him out of Kuwait. However by killing him and during the war, we effectively allowed the rise of ISIS and other groups into Iraq that he would has squelched long before they became a problem. I am retired military and was in for Desert Storm but retired before 2001. I was for the war because of the media hype but looking back I know that the reasoning was flawed and the intelligence was bad. So, instead we took Hussein out and had a quagmire for over a decade with many unnecessary deaths of young soldiers, marines and airmen. Same in Afghanistan, the Taliban was quote 'hiding Bin Laden' so we had to take them out. Yes they were repressive of their people but what did we do? We took out the Taliban and put in an ineffective so-called warlord who was corrupt and got into another quagmire for 2 decades. More US military dead that did need to be. We also found out that it was not the Taliban but our so-called ally Pakistan that was hiding Bin Laden. Great intelligence again. Hindsight is 20/20 sometimes but we get caught up in the moment because of flawed intelligence and send in the troops when maybe diplomacy would have worked. US Dollars work wonders overseas, I was in the Navy and on an aircraft carrier, when we pulled in the local businesses loved us because we dropped millions on the local economy. Not just what the sailors spent but we stocked the ship with food, supplies and maybe fuel, paid for tours for the crew, paid for boats to move people to shore as the carrier had to anchor out due to lack of pier space for it. Lots of money went into local coffers. We had some problems but most went okay and we waved the flag as 5 acres or so of sovereign US territory sitting off the coast of the local port. Do I regret what I did in the military? No, not really. Do I regret the deaths that happened? Yes, they were unnecessary but it did happen and we have to live with the consequences.
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  • Posted by mhubb 11 months, 3 weeks ago
    right now
    i cannot tell you what they fought for, what they died for

    anything of substance was thrown away by biden the usurper and his cabal of traitors
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  • Posted by Dobrien 11 months, 3 weeks ago
    And I'm proud to be an American
    Where at least I know I'm free
    And I won't forget the men who died
    Who gave that right to me
    And I'd gladly stand up next to you
    And defend Her still today
    'Cause there ain't no doubt
    I love this land
    God Bless the U.S.A.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 11 months, 3 weeks ago in reply to this comment.
    Been there done that and I will never quit going there. Thing is you can’t tell people you can only plant seeds, the truth , waters it eventually.
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  • Posted by kddr22 11 months, 3 weeks ago
    my favorite part...
    "Those who have fought and died to defend America and its freedoms are noble beyond measure. Those who pay self-serving tribute to their valor, but make war and expend lives as means to corrupt ends are evil beyond redemption. Honor the former; expose and oppose the latter."

    Very well said
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 11 months, 3 weeks ago
    I don;t give a Continental damn what you men think of war. If women sat down to negotiate, I, for instance would say to Ruthie Russia for instance, ' If you kill my son, I'll kill yours!' We wouldn't have all these wars I've witnessed all my born life.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 11 months, 3 weeks ago
    Hey shitheads! Don't tell me my guy died in vain. When I asked him what he was doing in Viet Nam, his answer was, 'Fighting aggression in Southeast Asia!. I lost my brother in law (a Major in the Army who flew Mohawks) and my husband got sprayed with Agent Orange! N
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