I moved out of california and sold off most all of the rel estate I had there, so they deserve to become leftist and broke.

Strongly agree. I don't like people suffering, but most libs can't see problems w their policies until it's painfully obvious. Then they blame R's - like Potato now blaming R's for the Defund Police movement.

They should just remind them that their actions pushing the EVs may result in profit for Musk. They'll panic and shut it all down. It's like if the Republicans started trading housing and free college to illegal immigrants for votes...The border would be shut in 5 minutes...

It's an acronym being used a lot here in the Gulch and elsewhere. It means "Internal Combustion Engine" and covers gasoline and diesel engines. I should have made that more clear.

whatsa ICE vehicle?

Nicely played, dino! LOL!

Isn't the Kalifornia Idiocracy plan to ban sales of new ICE vehicles, but not to outlaw service to existing vehicles? Gas stations will still be needed, but new ICE vehicles will be purchased out of state. I wonder how long it will take for Los Angeles streets to look like the streets of Havana, Cuba?

I say let california sink under its own regulations. The faster the better and the more other states see how leftist stuff is hell

What they did, and were allowed to get away with, in Arizona was (is) criminal. Oh - wait a minute - we all know that....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5pES...

Count Utah and Idaho as more Purple than Red. Don't be deceived by the (R) next to many of those legislators.

I wish that people outside of California would mind their own business and allow California to do as they choose. California NEEDS to suffer the natural consequences of their policies.

Agreed. A general rule is that when voter turnout > 80% fraud is big.

Most elections have about 55-60% turn out (for presidential elections). Let that sink in. Ballot harvesting and dirty voter rolls to the resuce!

There is the issue of gasoline. Good analogy of Newsome.

I understand your sentiment but....only the folks near the border will be able to get gasoline.
Newsome aint worth the turds in a good toilet.

That is, if you believe the elections weren't stolen.

Yeah they are leaving Cali but STILL voting the same way.... Arizona is now blue. Nevada is blue

I never understood why any state would automatically copy CA's laws. Each state is different (and CA is VERY different in a lot of ways). If CA passes a law you like, pass a similar law in your state, if you can get approval. I guess lawmakers don't like to think for themselves. How sad that we have reached this point.

Nearly 40 years ago I lived in the great leftist state of Maine where really good toilets, the ones that can get the job done in one flush were outlawed and all new home construction required low flow toilets. If your toilet broke and it needed to be replaced you had two choices: go to the local hardware store and buy a Maine State Mandated useless low flow flush toilet OR get in your car and drive across the border to NH or Canada (when Canada was still normal) and buy a toilet THERE and drive it back. It's true. People in California will be pumping some serious dollars in the Nevada Motor Vehicle economy thanks to Governor Nuisance.

LOL! On this hill they choose to stand with all the other shit they allowed. Hilarious!

science and reality will also help block these fools

along wih all the sane people leaving Cali