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State Attorneys General Say FedEx and UPS Help Feds Track Gun Sales. New shipping policies seen as attempt to 'bypass warrant requirements' and create gun registry

Posted by freedomforall 1 year, 5 months ago to Government
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"Based on reports from gun stores, Knudsen’s letter states, FedEx and UPS are now requiring Federal Firearms License holders (FFLs) to provide details of each shipment to the shipping companies, including the contents and recipient, allowing them “to create a database of American gun purchasers and determine exactly what items they purchased.

Citing the new policies, the letter states: “Perhaps most concerning, your policies allegedly allow FedEx [and UPS] to ‘comply with … requests from applicable law enforcement or other governmental authorities’ even when those requests are ‘inconsistent or contrary to any applicable law, rule, regulation, or order.’ In doing so you—perhaps inadvertently—give federal agencies a workaround to federal law, which has long prevented federal agencies from using gun sales to create gun registries.”

“The ATF is hoping they’re not going to have a warrant problem,” Knudsen said. “They could just go get this information from UPS and FedEx.”"

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  • Posted by freedomforall 1 year, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Instead the Deep State will arm AI robots to do exactly that - with the AI including strict programming on which political views are to be tolerated and which should be shot.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 1 year, 5 months ago
    It seems like an opportunity for a delivery org that respects its customers' privacy.
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  • Posted by LibertyBelle 1 year, 5 months ago
    Why doesn't somebody do something about this problem of all those guns going around hopping on their handles and going off and shooting people of their own volition? If they were all eliminated, there wouldn't be any crime, right?
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  • Posted by bsudell 1 year, 5 months ago
    Everyone should deny access because it is violation of our Constitution. "Sorry, that violates the law of our land, so I will not comply."
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    Posted by GaryL 1 year, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Wherever there are dollars to be had there will be corrupt individuals and companies right behind.
    My buddy caught his young son, around 11, in a small fib and was lecturing the boy on the virtues of being truthful. The kid said, "Why is such a little lie such a big deal? Politicians lie all the time and they don't get punished!"
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 1 year, 5 months ago
    FedEx better spend more time checking out their employees. One just kidnapped and murdered a beautiful little 5 year old. How'd he pass the background test for FEDEX or do they even check out their employees? Too busy sucking up to the government.
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  • Posted by $ Snezzy 1 year, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Frequently attributed to Stalin, similarly known to have been said by Boss Tweed, is the sentiment expressed by Nicaraguan dictator Anastasio Somoza, "Indeed, you won the elections, but I won the count."
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  • Posted by GaryL 1 year, 5 months ago
    The Pentagon can't account for billions spent on national security. Social Security can't account for billions sent to dead recipients. DHS can't account for billions spent and there are billions sent out to fraudulent Covid relief claimants.
    Maybe we should have FedX and UPS do our election vote counting because they can tell me where my new gun is every step of the way.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 1 year, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It's what happens when governments are allowed to become powerful. That power corrupts otherwise honest people, and attracts evil ones.
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  • Posted by Aeronca 1 year, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think they will attack via IRS. De-person them. No identity, out of the system, off the grid, and then open-season. One at a time, little by little. In the dark. I can feel it coming. They want total control. This is what happens when men rule other men.
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  • Posted by Aeronca 1 year, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You put up an article previous about credit card companies creating a new category of Firearm Sales so that gun purchases can be tracked. It no longer says General Merchandise.

    This plus the FedEx deal sounds like they are making sneaky moves. The tentacles are wiggling in to corner the firearm owners.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 1 year, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That assumes:
    1) that they were elected fairly, and
    2) we had some input into who are the candidates.
    imo, neither are true.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 1 year, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think our problem is we elect the wrong people. A man who has just had a stroke? A man who has been accused of sexual mischief with 53 women? A woman as VP who has a curious sexual background history. Women who are not loyal to this country. Who actually hate us. Shall I go on?
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 1 year, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Perhaps if they'd do their jobs everyone would be happier. As it is, people see sad and frightened. People fear hunger, the possibility of not being able to afford the winter utility prices and food prices. If our government spent more time adressing these issues, we'd be a lot more comfortable. This country would run better.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 1 year, 5 months ago
    It occurs to me this would be a safer world if the Government spent more time doing their job that in finding ways to make our lives uncomfortable. I fear they don't know their jobs and this causes me to feel we are not safe. They ignore our needs and think up ways to make us nervous and how to get back more of our dollars. I don't think they are doing THEIR jobs. N
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  • Posted by freedomforall 1 year, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Just the next step in the feds attempt to circumvent the constitution. It hopes to accumulate data on the many who buy on the internet, both new and used. Many local gun stores are selling more via the net than local walk in sales.
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  • Posted by mhubb 1 year, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    in some/most cases that information is not known
    stores order guns to sell

    i think in the 10+ years i've owned some, i've ordered 2 special

    another reason to buy used ones at the store...
    (most of mine are used)
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  • Posted by freedomforall 1 year, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    From the article:
    "FedEx and UPS are now requiring Federal Firearms License holders (FFLs) to provide details of each shipment to the shipping companies, including the contents and recipient,"
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 1 year, 5 months ago
    Well la te da! Pretty soon they'll be monitoring our younger ones' beddroom activity! They will probably be charged with attempting to overpopulate the earth!
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  • Posted by mhubb 1 year, 5 months ago
    ok
    you cannot have a gun shipped to your home in most cases
    it has to go to a FFL for you to have the background check done

    same with gun shows, any FFL holder MUST do a background check

    there are a few exceptions, curio and relic firearms if you have the license can be shipped to your home, no background check
    but these are older guns, likely not AR types (C&R ARs are rare)

    they can track ammo, parts
    but guns themselves?? they go to FFLs
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