AS II Has Arrived!

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d'Anconia edition of Atlas Shrugged II arrived today at my house. Yippee!


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  • Posted by jlogajan 12 years, 8 months ago
    I got my BluRay part 2 and have been watching it several times this last week. My favorite scene is now when Dagny visits Danagger just before he disappears. It's very poignant. Unlike the speech that d'Anconia gives at the wedding to hostile strangers, Danagger's philosophical lament is a natural commiseration between friends and colleagues. I realize now how effective that sort of conversation is for bringing out philosophical pay dirt. The wedding speech can be perceived as a bit too preachy -- but two friends discussing their predicament -- what could be more natural than that.

    And Arye Gross as Ken Danagger is such a likable guy. I was practically crying after he finished speaking. I want to live in the Gulch with people like that.
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    • Posted by sdesapio 12 years, 8 months ago
      I got to hang out with Arye a little bit the day we shot that scene and he really had a solid grip on Danagger. At lunch, he was drawing parallels between Ken and himself - you could tell he really got it.
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  • Posted by a59430802sojourner 12 years, 8 months ago
    I received both my Atlas Shrugged I & II yesterday. The cast in I was excellent. They had vitality; however, the cast in II was changed and seemed to be bland compared to the cast in I. I did a marathon and watched both last night. And in spite of the apparent poorer acting, i still enjoyed seeing Ayn Rands work in motion. At the rate the movie is progressing, it appears there will be at least two more parts.
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  • Posted by jlogajan 12 years, 8 months ago
    I noticed a bit of incongruity in the film due to changes from the book. James Taggart appoints eager but inexperienced Dave Mitchum to be the COO. In the book Mitchum is a political appointee and is a division superintendent. In the movie Eddie Willers has become competent and reliable. Taggart would more likely have quickly appointed Eddie as new COO. But that's the trouble with making Eddie too competent -- if he was in charge follow on events in the story would have been blamed on him. So there are story congruity problems due to making Eddie too strong a personality.
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  • Posted by DragonLady 12 years, 8 months ago
    My dvd FINALLY arrived!!! Can't wait to get home tonight to watch it. However, I do have a fairly minor issue, the packaging. I ordered the personalized discs, blu-ray for my son, HD for me. His came beautifully packaged, mine is enclosed in flimsy cardboard. I'm so disappointed in the packaging. I know the important thing are the discs inside, but this packaging will last about a month, if that. Part One had a very nice case, what happened here? Anyone else get this packaging?
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    • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 12 years, 8 months ago
      Hello DragonLady,

      We received ours Monday afternoon. It was the D’anconia copper jacketed blu-ray. The packaging is very nice. If I were you, I would pick up a jewel case for the disc.
      Regards,
      O.A.
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      • Posted by DragonLady 12 years, 8 months ago
        I will, of course. I know the blu-ray had the amazing case (my son loves it), but the HD case shown was considerably more substantial than what I received. This is what I'd expect if I purchased a dvd from a bargain bin at a dollar store. Sorry if I'm whining (I do it so well!)
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        • Posted by sdesapio 12 years, 8 months ago
          Sorry to hear of your disappointment DragonLady. The personalized DVDs were purposely packaged in a special "DigiPak" case to be used as an optional desktop display - which the standard packaging would not permit. Do me a favor and send a message to support@atlasshruggedmovie.com, with your comments regarding the case, and I'm SURE we'll be able to make you happy. Make sure to identify yourself as DragonLady from the Gulch.
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  • Posted by lizsue 12 years, 8 months ago
    In part two when Dagny was talking to Hugh Akston (I think it was Hugh)- and he lit a cigarette, you can see the dollar sign insigna on it
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  • Posted by BlueNova 12 years, 8 months ago
    I received my copy of Part II last night, the same night I watched Part I. Tonight I'll watch part II, kind of seamless really.

    I've read the book a number of years ago. The casting directors who selected the characters did an excellent job because they matched what I envisioned while reading the book.

    But, Becktel's brother playing Wyatt is a hoot. Last night I learned this because Becktel mentioned the movies his brother's movies.
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  • Posted by StephSCO 12 years, 8 months ago
    I got my copy of the Freedom Works DVD just before hubby decided to upgrade to HDTV and Blu-Ray. Guess I'll have to get the D'Anconia Blu-Ray now. ;)
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  • Posted by ta61885 12 years, 8 months ago
    It is not for sale at Target. and not on the new dvd release list on moviefone which is the first on the list when google searched. If it was not for being on AS e-mail list it could have been weeks until I found out. Is this lack of marketing or discriminating practices based on ideology? Im a little pissed I looked and didn't find it but shrugging it off on my way to the store. :S
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  • Posted by DragonLady 12 years, 8 months ago
    Am I the only one who hasn't yet received my "pre-ordered" dvds???? Got a notification from UPS that the new "scheduled" delivery date is February 27. If this is pre-order, next time I'll wait for Amazon to get it and order from them. With my Prime membership, I'll get it the next day. Guess I'll have to watch it on streaming, Who knows when I'll actually get my dvds??? :-(
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    • Posted by BlueNova 12 years, 8 months ago
      I pre-order a few days ago and not only saved 86 cents (but really 43 cents in this economy) and I got the DVD the day I watched Part I. So I watched Part I last night and will watch Part II tonight. Seamless viewing!!!!!!!!
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    • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 12 years, 8 months ago
      Hello DragonLady,

      I love your screen name.

      I haven't yet received mine either. If it doesn't come by Saturday I am going to go buy a copy locally. I can always pass it on.
      Regards,
      O.A.
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      • Posted by DragonLady 12 years, 8 months ago
        Thanks, it's a nickname I was given almost 30 years ago by the lawyer I worked for. Said I dealt with opposing counsel better than any of his junior lawyers Also came in handy raising two sons on my own. :-D
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        • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 12 years, 8 months ago
          Good morning DragonLady,

          I get the impression that you run a tight ship; that one might expect objective justice n your court, but to address you as the “Honorable DragonLady” in such a venue could be hazardous… :)
          Here I feel privileged to be allowed such a courtesy.
          In the gulch “we don’t have much government, just a few courthouses…”
          I hope you received your DVD and enjoyed the show. I am still waiting…
          Respectfully,
          O.A.
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          • Posted by DragonLady 12 years, 8 months ago
            "Honorable" doesn't fit, OA, I work for a living :-) Blu-Ray should be delivered today (ordered for my son), my disc, on Wednesday....Anticipation is half the fun!!!
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            • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 12 years, 8 months ago
              It is rather sad that working for a living is not held in higher esteem these days. With your reply, you just gained stature in my eyes. Tell me about your sense of the level of objectivity in your profession. It seems no one trusts any attorney, except their own.

              At least your disc is on the way and you didn’t have to order “capias ad satisfaciendum.”
              I can smell the popcorn.
              Enjoy!
              O.A.
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              • Posted by DragonLady 12 years, 8 months ago
                In some instances, lawyers shouldn't be trusted. It saddens me to think about what has happened to a once admirable profession. I've worked with lawyers for over 40 years and seen many changes, very few for the better. Not sure exactly what happened, it was all so gradual. It seemed to begin when law schools began lowering their standards to attract a more "diverse" student body, rather than the best minds. Gradually, ethnic origin, gender, etc. became more important to law school admission than a good mind, ethics and a genuine belief that our legal system, even with its faults, was the best in the world. I worked for large law firms (150 or more lawyers) for most of my working life until I burned out...hard to deal with 20-something "lawyers" who just passed the bar exam and think they have all the answers to every question ever asked. If I didn't work at the court, I probably would have gone into a completely different line of work. However, at the 7th Circuit we are fortunate to have some of the best legal minds (our circuit is considered the best in the country). We were fortunate to have Judge Posner and Judge Flaum on the panel in the NRA lawsuits. I attended the oral arguments in the 2nd Amendment suits, and was impressed with their objective questions to the lawyers and the almost total lack of any impression of bias toward either one side or the other (although it was fun to watch the City of Chicago corporation counsel floundering on occasion to answer one or two of their questions regarding the constitutional ramifications of Chicago's gun laws). I say "almost total lack of bias because the third judge on the panel was EXTREMELY biased in favor of Chicago's draconian gun laws. The biggest problem, I believe, is that our kids aren't being taught to think, but merely being indoctrinated with a touchy/feely way of thinking, that there is neither good nor bad, right or wrong, everything is relative kind of education. I fear it will be our undoing.
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                • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 12 years, 8 months ago
                  DragonLady,
                  I thank you for your service and rational approach. It seems in today’s world many in the legal profession seem to think that words have flexible meanings and the spirit of the law is not adhered to any more than the letter. Subjectivity seems to reign.

                  Today people think because we have a more technologically advanced society that they are somehow superior adjudicators of what is just than those who established our system. Nothing could be further from the truth in my opinion. Two plus centuries ago the minds of the founders were more astute and reasoned than the whims of the progressives of today. The basic principles are timeless and no amount of technology can replace the considerable edification the founders possessed. They had no calculators to do their math, no radios or TVs to tell them what to think. They had books to read and several millennia of history to guide them. When I read their words and the words of their influences, I recognize the superior level of their thought and consideration and find the notions of today’s politicians (many who are lawyers) to be greatly inferior.

                  These same people greatly influence the education and indoctrination of this “touchy/ feely” amorphous, nebulous thinking that is imparted en masse. A is A. There is right and there is wrong. Some may be able to evade it, but not indefinitely.

                  Perhaps these words from a former president are apropos:
                  "It is often asserted that the world has made a great deal of progress since 1776, that we have had new thoughts and new experiences which have given us a great advance over the people of that day, and that we may therefore very well discard their conclusions for something more modern. But that reasoning cannot be applied to this great charter. If all men are created equal, that is final. If they are endowed with inalienable rights, that is final. If governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed, that is final. No advance, no progress can be made beyond these propositions. If anyone wishes to deny their truth or their soundness, the only direction in which he can proceed historically is not forward, but backward toward the time when there was no equality, no rights of the individual, no rule of the people. Those who wish to proceed in that direction cannot lay claim to progress. They are reactionary. Their ideas are not more modern, but more ancient, than those of the Revolutionary fathers." Calvin Coolidge

                  Again, thank you for doing your part to stem the tide of tyranny.
                  Respectfully,
                  O.A.
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                • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 12 years, 8 months ago
                  Hello DragonLady,
                  My husband is a lawyer, and he feels as you do. The whole litigious aspect of it appalls him. He, too, worked in large firms in DC and NYC, and was very happy to leave them behind. He went in house with a chemical company here in CT, bringing them through bankruptcy, and was sought out by the company where he now works. I cannot say where that it is in this forum, but he is the GC of a firearms mfg. co. To say that things are intense for him in this present climate would be a very gross understatement. I applaud your efforts, and hope you continue the good fight.
                  NMA
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  • Posted by $ Ripside 12 years, 8 months ago
    Got my D'Anconia Copper edition pre-order yesterday. Lots of bonus features - although a bit too much focus on Libertarians for my taste.
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  • Posted by Aebaker1981 12 years, 8 months ago
    Got my copy yesterday and I'm watching it right now. I've been waiting for this since I attended the promotional teaser at FreePAC in Dallas last July.
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  • Posted by eskslo 12 years, 8 months ago
    My blu ray is on order. Can't wait to watch. What does everyone think of the new cast. Last was pretty good. I was mainly sad to see Taylor shilling go as dagny. She is great in everything she does. The rest I could take or leave. Thoughts?
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    • Posted by mkozicki 12 years, 8 months ago
      I loved the 1st cast and I think the 2nd cast killed the movie.

      The 1st cast had chemistry and seemed like they were doing the movie because they wanted to.

      The 2nd cast it felt more like they were doing and job for the money and may not have even wanted to be there all the time.

      Francisco is one of the changes that really bugged me. The 1st movie he really did seem like a playboy. In the 2nd movie they pick a gangster from Caprica. He is a great actor but no playboy type.

      Dagny also really bugged me. She gained 14 years and did not seem to have the zest for getting things done. I know the age thing should not be such a big deal but it just fully changed the perception of the part that was built in the 1st movie.
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      • Posted by lostinaforest 12 years, 8 months ago
        Yeah, I agree with your points regarding Dagny and Francisco, although I don't think they killed the film.

        I thought Taylor Schilling was perfect as Dagny, and looked and behaved just as I'd pictured while reading the book. Whereas I thought Samantha Mathis' demeanor was actually more suited to a portrayal of Eddie Willers than of Dagny. And I thought Mathis had the sincerity, humility, and down-to-earth practicality that Richard Jones seemed to lack.

        I agree that Esai Morales didn't quite carry the playboy. Too serious and not cheeky enough, especially at Jim's wedding.

        I thought the rest of the cast of ASII did a pretty good job though.

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  • Posted by LionelHutz 12 years, 8 months ago
    I just noticed another thing I missed in the theatre. In the Dagny/Danagger meeting, you can see the dollar sign insignia on the cigarettes in the ashtray. You do have to look for them - their color doesn't really pop out.

    It's funny camera work was done on this point - deliberately pausing on the ashtray so a freeze-frame would make it obvious what you should notice. I say this because the entire connection with Hugh Akston and the mystery visitor to Danagger isn't covered in the movie. So, semi-pointless...?
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  • Posted by LionelHutz 12 years, 8 months ago
    OK - so I'm watching my shiny d'Anconia copper Blu-Ray edition of AS2 tonight and I'm confused on the scene immediately following Hanks "try pouring a ton of steel without rigid principles" line. Dagny's walking out of the lobby of the TT headquarters and she looks to her left and stares for a bit, through what appear to be black lines on glass. What is she seeing?
    Protester grafitti? Or something more significant? John Galt ducking behind something?
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    • Posted by jlogajan 12 years, 8 months ago
      There are a couple scenes where she seems aware of someone looking at her. It's pretty subtle and I don't recall noticing it at the theater. But watching the BluRay I see it now and it is intentional. I presume she is sensing JG, since in the book we know he was following her around.
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