A cruise ship for Galt's Gulch?

Posted by $ jbrenner 3 years, 5 months ago to News
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Make an offer! Royal Caribbean is selling its two oldest ships to someone. A small cruise ship would be the best way to minimize government interference.


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  • Posted by $ 3 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What is needed, and my colleagues have produced, is the equivalent of a giant electric toothbrush.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 3 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    50 yrs ago my father was working with an inventor who developed a hull cleaning process using explosive shock waves to pulverize marine hull growth. They had some success but couldn't be applied to different steel hull materials and construction. The project ceased after hull damage occurred.
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  • Posted by $ 3 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In my same work building, the other materials science professor's group specializes in biofouling-related corrosion. Once a year they clean the hulls for all the Royal Caribbean ships that go into Port Canaveral.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 3 years, 4 months ago
    I watched a video on YouTube which seemed pretty authoritative who are those ships be sold too. According to the video those ships and many some what older merchant ships are being sold to breakers primarily in India. They showed so many many ships side by side beached and being cut apart and Chinese cargo ship being loaded with the scrapped steel from breaker yards. It a nice idea to buy one of those ships for a song but you need personnel to maintain vessels like that.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 3 years, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Funny...My sailing yacht didn't make me an angry liberal.
    Still Conservative after all these years.
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  • Posted by Lucky 3 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I understand that the nuclear subs need to resupply only for fresh fruit and veg. Even these are not absolutely essential, at least for a year or so.
    Could it be ok for working at home - on line?
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  • Posted by $ DriveTrain 3 years, 5 months ago
    An interesting idea but fraught with problems every which way. The most obvious being the thing that's typically ignored by Libertarians: security. Unless in addition to the cruise liner you have an entire Naval battle group to escort you around, you will be literally blown out of the water by the first commie regime (or any other group of pirates,) that decides that it doesn't like the idea of a group of objectivists living freely and prosperously anywhere on earth, and notices that "Hmm, they're 100% defenseless."

    The second problem is the thing that's already been mentioned here: The need to resupply, with everything from fuel to food to fresh water to simple nuts-and-bolts operating supplies like cleaning, maintenance and cooking products.

    The other massive problem is that rational people - objectivists in particular - are not content to live their lives in idle, purposeless coasting. Aside from those who may be retired, every single passenger on this ship will want to be creating and producing. If they're hammering out software, novels and the like on keyboards it's not a problem, but how do you do industrial production, or even less infrastructure-intensive commercial production, aboard a cruise ship?

    Though there are advantages to being mobile (though far less so in the era of inescapable surveillance,) the most logical location for any Galt's Gulch will be land-based.

    And as an inescapable corollary, absent a real-world equivalent of the cloaking technology that concealed the valley in Atlas Shrugged, any real-world Galt's Gulch would need a significant military force to defend its freedom.
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  • Posted by rhfinle 3 years, 5 months ago
    Government interference? If you tick off ~any~ government on the planet, all they have to do is pop a couple of holes in your waterline and its game over. I would prefer a sanctuary with rocks for cover.
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  • Posted by $ Meerkat24 3 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The interior rooms aren't much bigger than a broom closet. You'd have to knock down a bunch of walls. Maybe six of them would make a room someone could live in.
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  • Posted by $ Meerkat24 3 years, 5 months ago
    Majesty was a great ship. It was brand new when we found out my wife was pregnant with our first child in '92, and we knew it was going to be a while before we got to travel again. We took a long cruise on Majesty of the Seas, and it was the biggest ship we'd seen or been on. As the last vacation we would take for several years, it was a great memory. Years later, when we took both our son and daughter, I think he got tired of us saying it was really his second cruise. LoL
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 3 years, 5 months ago
    I like the way you think...wish I had the cash, we'd never survive the pole reversal/micronova on the open seas in a boat like that though...but we'd be safe up until then.
    We could, however, ride it out between two east/west mountain ranges on land though...that's how Noah did it.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If they are included in the EU there are significant fees and inspections that most sailors would rather avoid. Panama, Marshall Isl., Cayman Isl., are favorites. Cayman is part of the Red Ensign Group which has protection promised by the British Royal Navy.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 3 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I know a good many people who live on their yachts. A yacht is a boat with sails on it I was told. They anchor at various places along Clear Lake (Houston) and run up and down the Ship Channel and into the Gulf of Mexico. They are a fun group.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    What "authority" or regime would "recognize" us as a new country? They don't want anyone to be freed from enslavement.
    Maybe if we are all poor, non-white, communists.
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