Intellectual Property and Economic Prosperity: Friends or Foes?

Posted by khalling 9 years, 8 months ago to Economics
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One of the USPTO report’s most frequently discussed findings was that “IP-intensive” industries employ a lot of people: “Direct employment in the subset of most IP-intensive industries identified in this report amounted to 27.1 million jobs in 2010, while indirect activities associated with these industries provided an additional 12.9 million jobs throughout the economy in 2010, for a total of 40.0 million jobs, or 27.7 percent of all jobs in the economy.”


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  • Posted by Hiraghm 9 years, 8 months ago
    Said dbhalling from under his bridge.
    You're incapable of admitting when you're wrong. But, anyone can tell. THAT is when you resort to ad hominem, as above.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    How many electronic transistors were there in the Jacquard loom or Hollerith's tabulator?
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  • Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    EWV is a troll. I suspect he is Economic Freedom. Don’t feed the troll.

    BTW how did you give yourself 374 points in one day?
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    Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    EWV is a troll. I suspect he is Economic Freedom. Don’t feed the troll.

    BTW how did you give yourself 374 points in one day?
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  • Posted by ewv 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Almost everyone knows what a simple switch is. Your diversions into personal insults and baseless accusations against people who understand physics and computers far better than you do are getting you nowhere. You are rude, insulting and incapable of civilized discussion. You are supposed to be better than this.
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    Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You have no idea what a switch is. You don't understand the most basic physics of an electrical circuit. Looks like you are troll.
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  • Posted by ewv 9 years, 8 months ago
    Did you read it? I didn't write anything about changing the direction of the current.
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  • Posted by ewv 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You want the lights on all the time? I don't. I turn them off when I'm not in the room, especially late at night. That is what the switch is for. It doesn't require rewiring the house.
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  • Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Really, because flipping a switch does not cause the electrons to flow in a different direction. Brilliant.

    Do you actually read what you write?
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  • Posted by ewv 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Turning on the lights does not rewire anything. The purpose of flipping a switch is to turn the light on or off, not to rewire your house. The switch does nothing to the wiring, it allows current to flow or not.

    A logic circuit consists of transistors and many other elements in different combinations of sub-circuits such as flip flops that maintain a binary state through clock cycle. Logic circuits, or switching circuits, change the binary state. They do not rewire the circuit.
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  • Posted by ewv 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't have to "try". Switches do not "change the wiring", or as you used to say "rewire a circuit". They are part of a circuit.

    You haven't addressed, or apparently understood, anything I wrote about the role of transistors in logic circuits and their complete separation from software. Software does not address the implementation of logic circuits.
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  • Posted by ewv 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Software does not deal with transistors at all, and software is not "bad writing". This is just silly.
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  • Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The software sets the states (open and closed) of the transistors. Period. The software is just bad writing.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Sorry, meant your daughter (Kaira?).

    An invention is a physical manifestation, and IP is the documentation of the idea, correct?
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  • Posted by ewv 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The software doesn't "tell transistors what to do" either. It is a sequence of logical and arithmetic operations which when encoded and read into the computer after being 'compiled' or 'interpreted', directs the sequence of states of a machine no matter how they are physically represented internally. It normally runs on a different computers (though different compilers or interpreters) with different internal implementations, whose physical operation is irrelevant to the form and purpose of the high level software.

    A "switching circuit" represents binary signals, not "rewiring" anything. The "switching" is from one combination of binary states to another. Different machines use different circuits and components that operate logically equivalently.

    The changing states of individual transistors, which in turn and in combination represent the state of the machine at each step in a sequence, are a consequence of combinations of binary inputs that ultimately affect every physical component. They are are not "told what to do" by software, from which they are entirely decoupled in the layered software/hardware. The software has no 'knowledge' of any individual transistors, or whether transistors are used at all (though they usually are).

    The bad metaphor of "rewiring a computer" is a simplistic fallacy substituting for the role of software written for a specific purpose sequentially directing the operation of a computer when it is read in and interpreted as combinations of input voltages. The IP is in the logic of the high level operations of the software and their intended purpose, but which must be implemented on some computer to direct the sequential states represented in whatever machine is used to process the input and produce the required output in a physical form -- changing a display, producing text or numerical results, signals controlling another device, etc. So it is also more than "just the logic".
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    Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    A logic circuit is made up of transistors. Transistors are switches. When a switch changes state it changes the wiring. For instance, a light switch changes the wiring to either have the light bulb get voltage or not. If you did not want the wiring to change there would be no reason for switches.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    you are talking to me. I am not there, sadly.
    the IP is ALWAYS the logic (how to), no matter what the underlying tech is. we are talking about the invention itself, not the IP. One is a property right. the other is the thing for which you have the right in. they are not the same. it's an easy mistake. I make it all the time, and get yelled at for. :)
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  • Posted by ewv 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    A description of what computer logic circuits do in comparison to the bad metaphor of "rewiring" is not "sophistry". The "wiring" in a computer does not change. The binary states, normally represented by voltages at many locations, sequentially change millions of times a second.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That's merely the physical media. The IP is the logic.

    Couldn't make the premier either, it seems. Too bad. Is Kaila there? I would hope so.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Software is neither, it is a logic flow. It is not mathematics in the pure sense as logic is not mathematics, although computers use numeric as the method of logical evaluation. And it certainly isn't merely a way of wiring an electronic circuit, as the logic can be inferential, statistical, as well as computational.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    got it from you from another post:
    "Switches do not rewire a circuit, they are components that are part of a circuit. But a switching circuit in a computer means that the transistors change the binary states which they represent by the voltage differences across them. Logic circuits in computers operate with binary signals represented by voltages at the lower and upper range, with several elements employed to control each transistor. The states change with each increment of the clock, with a different state for each step of the program (at the machine language level). It is these voltage states that are "switched" from one logical configuration to another. They do not not "rewire the circuit". Whatever you are trying to say you aren't using the correct terminology."
    IF you wanted the wiring to remain the same, there would be no use for a switch. hence "re-wired." The whole point of a switch is to open and close (the changes in voltages). sophistry
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