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It's all academic!

Posted by tkstone 9 years, 8 months ago to Government
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My wife and I were discussing the failed socialist experiment called Biosphere Two, and it made me wonder if maybe we could establish Galt's Gulch as an academic experiment tell the goverent to leave us alone for a while and we will publish the results in ten years. Treat us like a Native American reservation and we will let you know how it works out. Just a thought.


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  • Posted by straightlinelogic 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We 1/32 Cherokees believe that all people are related under Brother Sun and Sister Moon. As for the Senate, I'm allergic to politicians and would be unable to serve.
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  • Posted by eddieh 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Than you might be related to Elizabeth Warren. Maybe you can run for Mass. Senate next election.
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  • Posted by straightlinelogic 9 years, 8 months ago
    It just so happens I'm 1/32 Cherokee Indian (which may explain my high cheek bones and inability to hold much liquor). I get goose bumps, goose bumps I tell you, when they play that old Paul Revere and the Raiders' song on oldies radio. If that's enough for me to establish my own reservation, I'll be happy to set it up as a Galt's Gulch.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 8 months ago
    State governments already allow Tax Increment Financing tools to incentivize development. What if we used the proposal to abate taxes on improvements for twenty years. I know it is not the ultimate answer, but if our country still exists at that point we would have good evidence for our argument for getting the government out of our lives. Unfortunately this would only work with property tax and maybe sales tax. ....Incremental I know.
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  • Posted by Notperfect 9 years, 8 months ago
    Good thought, but they will only want their own casino in the Gulch. Spying eyes.
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  • Posted by barwick11 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    He'd probably have better luck prying away another island in Lake St Clair from Canada, like Walpole Island, or Dickinson Island, either of which are located on either side of the fairly exclusive Harsen's island, and both of which are uninhabited to my knowledge.
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  • Posted by barwick11 9 years, 8 months ago
    hehe... that's an awesome idea. Let's call it "Wyoming" (or insert state name here), and they don't even have to build us a dome.
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  • Posted by NealS 9 years, 8 months ago
    Yes I agree. I think they should draw the line down the Mississippi River. We could then compete East U.S. against West U.S. (Please make the West the side of the Shruggers).
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 9 years, 8 months ago
    First, they'd have to come in to make sure the children were alright. Then, everybody would need their vaccines. Then, water rights would have to be established, even if just taken from private well. Then, the waste management board would have to approve what you do with your waste. Then, you'd have to abide by Common Core because we want "no child left behind". Then, you'd have to all pay taxes on commerce. How's the electricity generated? That has to be approved, you know...

    We're all just livestock. We might be allowed to have the illusion of freedom as long as we kept the yield up for the farmer...
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 8 months ago
    Yeah, I'm a dreamer too. That bummer called reality keeps waking me up.
    Our government long ago created reservations to control American Indians. Not to let them experiment with freedom.
    I'm not saying such a dream of for real Galt Gulches is an impossibly.
    Maybe later. The conniving government we have now only pretends to love freedom.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 9 years, 8 months ago
    Not quite like a Native American reservation. Whatever else an N.A. reservation might be, it is not sovereign, in the way that, say, Bophuthatswana is sovereign. And I don't look for this government to agree to anything like this.
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  • Posted by jimslag 9 years, 8 months ago
    I like the idea but you and I know that the government is not going to let anything like this happen. They do not want to let any of us cash cows go, it would set a bad precedence.
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  • Posted by Animal 9 years, 8 months ago
    When has the Imperial Federal governemnt ever voluntarily relinquished an iota of control over anyone or anything, ever?
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  • Posted by strugatsky 9 years, 8 months ago
    Why would the establishment nurture the seeds of its own destruction? You will be squashed the moment you even make the idea public.
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  • Posted by Boborobdos 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In fact the Amish have had something very close to what you are discussing for a very long time. Not quite total, but very close.
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  • Posted by richrobinson 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I read some of these comments and I thought I took the ice bucket challenge. Why throw cold water on this idea. I think it has merit.
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  • Posted by 9 years, 8 months ago
    I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man or ask anyone to live for mine. I never suggested taking any funds. Only the freedom to live as I choose. I think the ten year study would be an easier sell then forever. Since Honduras is working on the concept we would not have to reinvent the wheel administratively. Has anyone seen the framework legislation for their ZEDS?
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "Instead of ten years I would make them promise to leave us alone until we gave up and came back. "
    It would be a difficult sell. I would be thrilled to see even one such zone established.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 8 months ago
    I agree with Zenphamy that the money might come with strings and intrusion, BUT if you could get them to do it AND someone there created the next Facebook, they might take interest in expanding the program. Of course they'd want to find a way to get the benefit of the free zone and the benefit of the tax revenue. So it would be the beginning of a struggle, but I'd accept that first step.
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