Whistleblower Claims CDC Hid Data Linking Vaccines To Autism : Personal Liberty

Posted by straightlinelogic 9 years, 8 months ago to Science
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I wish I had known, or at least suspected, that there was an alleged link between vaccinations and austism when our son was born. I do not believe it is the vaccinations themselves that can lead to austism, but rather the thimerosol (mercury) that is used as a preservative in vaccinations, especially multiple vaccinations in one shot. The government, the pharmacuetical industry, and the Wall Street Journal have consistently maintained that there is no link. However, I know that my son was a bright, engaged infant, and his whole personality changed after the standard California prescribed regimen of vaccinations. We received a diagnosis of autism when he was three.

Autism rates have skyrocketed as the number of required vaccinations have increased. Anybody who thinks its because of better diagnosis and more awareness, or because parents want government aid for their children, has not spent much time around autistic kids. After 17 years with an autistic child, I can tell other autistic children within a minute or two of meeting them, and also autistic adults who might never have been diagnosed. Naturally with our autistic son we met many other parents and their autistic children. Some of their children became "autistic" immediately after a round of a vaccinations. With multiple vaccinations, the mercury level is far in excess of what the government considers no risk. The symptoms of autism are virtually identical to the symptoms of mercury poisoning.

There have been studies supposedly "proving" that there is no link, but some of the studies do not even control for mercury in the vaccinations, and many are conducted under the auspices of either pharmaceutical companies or the government, neither of whom I trust. My son has made amazing strides; he will graduate from high school this year, he has a job at a hamburger stand, and he is very smart, which puts him in the Aspergers camp. However, he admits that he is socially awkward, and he has had some real struggles making friends and getting along with other kids. We will probably never get an official admission that autism has something to do with mercury and vaccinations, but if you or anyone you know has a newborn infant, parents can request thimerosol free vaccinations, and can space out vaccinations and have them administered one at a time. As we Gulchers know in many other contexts, relying on the government to protect our interests is the definition of foolishness.
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  • Posted by CDePalma 9 years, 8 months ago
    The evidence we have today points to a direct increase in the incidence of autism, both due to thimerosol and to thimerosol free vaccines. Read "Evidence of Harm" by David Kirby. He uncovers some of the coverup. You can attend schools without vaccinations with either a religious, medical of philosophical exemption (where available). Individual vaccines are no longer available, i.e., the MMR is no longer available as the M and M and R. In the US it is only available as the MMR. My third son was vaccine injured. He was given the MMR and DTaP on a day when he had a cold; within 48 hours he stopped speaking, stopped responding to his name, started toe walking and hand flapping.
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  • Posted by richrobinson 9 years, 8 months ago
    I remember my brother considered not getting vaccinations for his kids because of the possible link to autism. He was told they would not be allowed to attend school without them. Most people thought he was a conspiracy nut then. I think all we want is access to the available information so we can make informed decisions. Thank you for sharing your story Straight.
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    • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 8 months ago
      "He was told they would not be allowed to attend school without them. "
      This is a subset of the problem of having the gov't run any service. What would otherwise be personal choice becomes a public debate. My kids went to a play group at a school where many parents didn't vaccinate their kids on schedule. We chose not to use that school. Vaccines aren't 100% effective and depend on having a critical mass of people vaccinated. We didn't have to get in a debate with them. We just picked a different school where kids were mostly vaccinated. If you're committed to having the gov't provide the service, though, it becomes a struggle. The same thing may be happening with healthcare. If gov't ran grocery stores we'd have to debate organic food and fair trade coffee. There are countless little decisions we make without a second thought that would be huge political debates if the gov't were involved.
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  • Posted by DaveM49 9 years, 8 months ago
    I'm intrigued. If indeed there is solid science backing the claims (with any luck the whistleblower will be able to produce some documentation).

    Vaccines have saved countless lives. That said, they are now given massive numbers of vaccines in rapid fire order at an age when a child's entire system is developing. It would not be ethical to perform a series of studies involving infants, but surely larger-scale statistical data could be maintained with ease.

    I do not believe vaccines to be evil. But I do question the number given over a short term to a small child. In my day (oh, how I feel weird using that phrase), there were four childhood vaccinations: measles, smallpox, diphtheria/tetanus, and polio. In my present home state, at last count there are 21.

    Remember that the purpose of a vaccine is to promote an immune response so that the body inoculates itself against a specific (usually) virus. I am unaware of any objective science on repeated intense stimulation of the immune system (again, in a developing child) on general health.

    Many people blame mercury. I have been unable to find anything solid to support that. Only a few vaccines still contain Thimerisol as a preservative. But making the body believe it is "sick" 21 times with at least 21 different illnesses? To my knowledge, that is essentially an ongoing "experiment". Surely it is worth examining with a non-political agenda.
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    • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 7 months ago
      As I read the article, part of what came out to me was not that vaccines were bad, but that they had to be introduced at the proper times. The evidence was that it was effectively the massive numbers of simultaneous (or near-simultaneous) vaccines at a premature introduction were causing the rise in autism.
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      • Posted by DaveM49 9 years, 7 months ago
        That's my belief, based on personal research on the immune system in connection with an entirely different matter. It is possible that the number of vaccinations administered over a short period of time during childhood provoke an immune response that overloads the system and possibly leaves one vulnerable to autoimmune conditions.

        Now if an autoimmune connection to autism could be found, it would be a MAJOR contribution to modern medicine and some solid science which might shed light on this issue--and perhaps many others.
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    • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 8 months ago
      Your post expresses my view on it better than I could.
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      • Posted by DaveM49 9 years, 8 months ago
        Conversely, I have seen no evidence linking vaccines given later in life to any major problems. I believe there are occasional cases of Gillan-Barre Syndrome which may be tied to some vaccines. Hysteria of alleged cases of the syndrome stopped the 1975-76 swine flu vaccination program (and were later proven to be false). Of course, the swine flu never materialized, leaving one to wonder what the government was panicking about.

        I have a flu shot every year, sometimes a pneumonia shot, and got the shingles vaccine after an outbreak which could have cost me one of my eye. It is purely my decision and I regard the benefit vs. any risk as more than worth accepting.

        I believe the HPV vaccine is more than worth considering, as if in wide use, it would prevent roughly 27,000 cervical cancer cases each year. Since HPV is transmitted sexually, there is no need to administer it during infancy. But I do believe everyone at the onset of puberty (yes, including men, who are generally asymptomatic but can transmit it) should be offered the vaccine. I say again, offered, not required to have it.
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  • Posted by Kova 9 years, 8 months ago
    I think that vaccine-related autism is also due to a particular sensitivity within the immune system of an individual whose experience (reaction to the vaccine as trauma) may trigger an already latent tendency for autism. I have no directly available links to back up this theory, but it could explain why so many kids do not develop side effects from the vaccines. In the end, it should be up to the individual to decide whether or not (and what type of) vaccine is suitable for their child.
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  • Posted by fivedollargold 9 years, 8 months ago
    A study in Italy found no relationship between vaccinations and autism. Multiple genes are implicated in this disorder, hence the range of outcomes. Fivedollargold tends to think the increase in the rate of autism is due to better education and assessment techniques. It wasn't long ago that physicians were being taught its cause was "cold mothering." $5Au doesn't reject the vaccination theory entirely, but the same logic could be used also to claim it is caused by prenatal exposure to microwave ovens. You can't infer causation from what is essentially correlational data.
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    • Posted by DaveM49 9 years, 8 months ago
      Some psychiatrists in this country continued to try to treat syphilis via Freudian psychotherapy long after the introduction of treatments for the disease. No, I am not referring to the Tuskeegee Experiment. I have several pre-World War II textbooks which advocate it.
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    • Posted by CDePalma 9 years, 8 months ago
      The Italian courts have all ready recognized the autsim/vaccine link and have made it a compensable injury. I have yet to find a single study that disproves a link. If you have one, please post a link to it. I'd love to see it.
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    • Posted by 9 years, 8 months ago
      The genetic explanation cannot explain the many cases where the first symptoms of autism show up within a day or two after vaccinations. I believe there is a genetic component to susceptibility to autism. However, with vaccinations, in many cases we may not even be talking about autism, but rather mercury poisoning. There may be a genetic component to that as well. Did the Italian study use vaccines with thimerosol?
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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 7 months ago
    Robert, my sister is a commercial artist who works
    with Aspergers kids;; she is very successful at
    bringing them forward in hand-eye coordination and
    social interaction, creative expression and self-
    confidence. it is wonderful to see!!! -- j

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  • Posted by johnpe1 9 years, 7 months ago
    and I heard yesterday that CDC is studying falls,
    as in "trips and ..." to determine causes;;; how are
    falls diseases, I wonder. government intrudes into
    everything....... -- j

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  • Posted by $ Stormi 9 years, 8 months ago
    When I read things like this, I cannot help recalling the video in which Bill Gates speaks to like-minded people about the need to reduce population and concluded, "Vaccines are the way to go," whatever that meant.
    I have long been wary of vaccines, since my nephew suddenly had full blown MS after being forced to take the shots unapproved by the FDA during the Gulf War. About the same time, a friend of ours dutifully took her flu shot and, within hours, was in a hospital, completely paralyzed. She remained in the hospital for weeks, went through endless physical therapy, and continues to be tied to medication since. A local mortician spoke before a civic group recently, and warned people in attendance of the dangers of vaccines, which he said were filled with dangerous chemicals.
    Being allergic to eggs, I shudder every time they suggest "mandatory" vaccines, as the allergic reaction would be worse than most diseases for me.
    The government is in bed with big drug companies, doctors are woefully uninformed about the vaccines, and we are the herd animals they all want to control..
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  • Posted by pgentempo25 9 years, 8 months ago
    I am sorry to read of these unfortunate happenings. I studied the vaccine 'issue' pretty closely and concluded that the 'risk/benefit' ratio just wasn't there. And that this purported science had turned to religious zeal. I did not vaccinate my kids and they were able to attend school. What's crazy is I could not admit them to school without vaccines on a rational scientific basis (there is no path there) but rather I had to get an irrational religious exemption. When it comes to unalienable rights, to assert that a parent must inject their child with a potential life-threatening vaccine and must accept such risks for the 'greater good' is about as evil a concept as one can imagine.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 9 years, 8 months ago
    Mercury poisoning has its own set of hazards. I worry about the over-stimulation of the immune system, leading to autoimmune disease. And I wouldn't be surprised if the Autism Spectrum has an autoimmune origin.

    This goes to whether any infectious disease is enough of a hazard to order people to stimulate their immune systems in this artificial way.

    Besides: ever since I learned the phrase "herd immunity," I got my hackles up. "Herd immunity" means "the reason you don't catch it is that you're surrounded by individual immunes, and the carrier can't get to you." But what a term. We are not cattle!
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  • Posted by NealS 9 years, 8 months ago
    The government seems to be exempt from the truth, from the right thing, from fairness, from anything that benefits the people other than itself and it's own people, period. Will they ever admit to a link to children like my daughter, developmentally delayed (she's 32 going on 13), and the other over 50% of my comrades with similar children? Our only commonality was Vietnam and Agent Orange. "

    One of the good parts is that special needs children/adults are exceptionally wonderful people, they love and are loved and cherished perhaps even a little more than normal children. They truly are Special.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 8 months ago
    This is post hoc ergo propter hoc.
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    • Posted by 9 years, 8 months ago
      When you see a bright normal kid suddenly completely transformed post hoc a day or two after the propter hoc vaccination, of course it is a logical fallacy to conclude the two are related. However, it would also be a logical fallacy to conclude that the two cannot be related. Ayn Rand said that statistics that indicated a correlation between smoking and lung cancer was post hoc ergo proper hoc. According to Barbara Branden, she nevertheless put out her cigarette and quit smoking after she received her diagnosis. Correlation does not always equate to causation, but sometimes it does, and I've seen too many cases of autism after vaccinations, including my son, not to suspect that there is some sort of link.
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      • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 8 months ago
        Yes. Just b/c correlation does not equal correlation does not prove vaccines are safe. The scientific evidence so far says they are safe, but science is always open to new evidence. I will not be surprised if they find contradictory evidence in my lifetime. With my kids I'm following the scientific evidence we have at hand today.
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        • Posted by 9 years, 8 months ago
          I don't think it's the vaccines, I think it is the mercury preservative, thimerosol. I would not advise anyone to avoid vaccines, but they are available without mercury. We know that mercury can cause brain damage; why take chances?
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          • Posted by $ Susanne 9 years, 8 months ago
            Remember the days when you'd get a cut, and mom would reach for the Mercurocrome? And how many of us have silver fillings - made of an amalgam of Silver and - you guessed it - Mercury?

            My god, you'd think with all that we'd all be vegatative and spastic...

            Then again, we still have the lead pots, dippers, and moulds for casting our own bullets. That smell always brings back memories...
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          • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 8 months ago
            " I would not advise anyone to avoid vaccines, but they are available without mercury. "
            I had heard they removed mercury from all vaccines a few years ago, even though there's no evidence the earlier vaccines were harmful. I'm not sure if that is true.

            I agree that caution is always good with transition metals.

            BTW, I'm a little aspie, but not more so than the average electronics guy. I remember an EE professor in the mid 90s, before I had heard of autism outside of Rainman, saying that people want to you look them in the eye but then if you do it too much they don't like it. The solution, he said, is too look at their mouth, and that satisfies the society requirement for eye contact. This was just general advice he was giving. In retrospect, I think he and most of the class were aspies.

            I know for some people it's not a personality trait but a serious issue. I'm glad you're son's doing better.
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          • Posted by CDePalma 9 years, 8 months ago
            Not all vaccines are available mercury-free. What isn't discussed is that the role of mercury in vaccines was not just as a preservative, it was also an adjuvant. The mercury was necessary to irritate our immune system to respond to the virus it was trying to get a reaction to. When they removed to mercury, they replaced it, mostly, with aluminum. Aluminum is thought to be a even more potent neuro-toxin than mercury.
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            • Posted by plusaf 9 years, 7 months ago
              and all these years I've blamed my OCD, chronic depression and some ADD on my genes...
              The mercurochrome mom slathered on my cuts and the aluminum pans I fried my bacon and eggs in each morning, as well as the rosin and lead vapor fumes I inhaled over decades of soldering electronic gizmos together just NEVER occurred to me to have been an influence.

              Not. You can blame any cause you want for any effect you don't want, but if the experiments aren't replicated, reviewed and controlled, it's all BS.

              Amazing how I even made Dean's List at RPI with all those negative influences... :)
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              • Posted by CDePalma 9 years, 7 months ago
                I'm sure the snarkyness served you well at RPI. Maybe you would have gotten into MIT if it were not for all of the negative influences on your biology. My apologies for my own snarkyness, but when someone comments, without knowing that in fact the science has been replicated, at leading, and respectable institutions around the globe. Funny how you don't know that you can also achieve any outcome in the experiment you want, if you just bend the data and controls to achieve the desired result. Read the studies, and when you understand that the agenda drives the results, especially from government agencies, then we might have an intelligent discussion on the science.
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                • Posted by plusaf 9 years, 7 months ago
                  :)... I think my HS grades kept me out of MIT. They, like Rice and Princeton, turned me down. Northwestern, RPI, Rutgers, and I think Stevens Institute were willing to take a chance on me (and take my money.)

                  I've observed that in many such 'discussions,' folks on one side reject the veracity of experimental results put forth by 'the other side.'

                  Rarely, if ever, do both 'sides' get together and discuss the experimental processes as well as their results before decreeing that 'my side wins.'

                  You're absolutely right! Agendae seem to drive 'results' more than experimental design drives accuracy OF results. One of my favorite examples nowadays is the Global Warming "debate." The levels of 'he-said/she-said' or 'you fudged the data/no, I didn't' have made any rational discussions fairly impossible.

                  Me? I still blame lack of ability for Critical Thinking and Overwhelming Desire for Instant Answers by the Public as two of the root causes of the situation.

                  And I don't see those changing... do you?
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                  • Posted by CDePalma 9 years, 7 months ago
                    Lack of ability for Critical Thinking is an understatement, and on this we can agree. The Overwhelming Desire for Instant Answers I'll argue may not hold water for this particular situation. Stakeholders (Parents) have been screaming from the rooftops that vaccine reactions have led to precipitous declines in intellectual and biological functioning for their children for 20 years. I'm not sure that finding out 10 years after the "Governmental Agency" designed to protect us from this type of preventable damage has intentionally deceived us into believing that vaccines are safe by violating the very practices of good science we are lead to believe they practice constitutes a desire for instant answers; other than to demand for the punishment and restitution that the situation demands. Good science can, and has been, done on the vaccine front. The Vaccine Injury Compensation Program has already compensated thousands of families for vaccine injuries, as long as it wasn't called autism. You could be compensated for all of the standard criteria for autism, as long as you labeled the criteria in your suit, and not called it autism. I do not want to deny anyone the right to inject anything they want into their bodies. I can even understand the argument that they should be allowed to inject anything they want into their minor children's bodies (where the alternative is that the government makes that decision). However, I should be able to opt out of the mandatory vaccine schedule as a whole, or on an individual shot basis, without repercussion (if you desire, we can begin the argument on Herd Immunity now, and I'll further school everyone on that fallacy).
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