Yep, it's a great read.
Thanks for the link.

-- I know that some wealthy conservatives, including Mark Levin, have been buying rare historical letters but you wrote that Beck has the original Declaration as well as some drafts: "He has the original but yes, there are a few drafts...I called them copies. Obviously they are not copies." Now you say he "obviously doesn't have the official Declaration of independence."

This started because Beck didn't give any sources for his comments in his video. He doesn't have to have the original documents, but it's what you said.

-- Beck's Mercury One advertises itself as a conservative religious organization and emphasizes itself on its own home page that it "encourages dependence on God", linked above at https://mercuryone.org/

-- David Barton with his Wallbuilders is another religious proselytizer engaging in severe historical revisionism. He notoriously had to outright retract one of his own major books, but which he apparently still sells, because it was filled with so many false claims refuted by actual historians. Barton attracted attention through his buying old documents that historians were interested in but has no credibility among historians.

Barton used to be on Glenn Beck's old Fox TV show promoting religion and his historical revisionism a lot when, on the way to the show's demise, it drifted from Beck's original expose's, such as the ones on Acorn and Van Jones, into religious promotion.

This religious activism has no intellectual credibility. Their waving around some expensive historical letters, as collectors' items, in the promotions as they pick out every occurrence of the word "god" they can find and run with it out of context is not a substitute for objectivity in history.

He has tons of original documents and pieces of history and so does Wallbuilders, some of which will be and have been donated to the Archives, some authorized or borrowed too.
He used to have a show each week called the Vault. Each week he showcased a piece of history and the stories behind them.

He obviously doesn't have the official Declaration of independence.

People, high school kids and college students go to Mercury One for a week or two in the summers to learn history and see these documents first hand.

I'm pretty sure they don't teach or encourage dependence on anything but one's self...reverence, appreciation, perhaps but that's another subject.

The word is "feuding", not "funding". The emotional feuding and personal attacks should be taken somewhere else -- preferably to "nowhere". Whatever else such people may do here that is appropriate is up to them. That is not telling anyone to "go to hell". The general spread of irrationality is becoming such that some don't know the difference.

This is supposed to be an Ayn Rand forum for rational discussion. Feuding and personal attacks do not belong here. That is not telling anyone "where to go", i.e., Dobrien's own "Go to hell". Blarman already said he tried to get me banned for responding to his public posts.

He has "the" original? That is claimed to be in the National Archives in Washington https://www.constitutionfacts.com/us-... Copies were made for distribution at the same time as the original.

Mercury One is a traditional conservative religious organization that says it engages in charity, sells trinkets and "encourages dependence on God" https://mercuryone.org/. Where does anyone claim that Beck owns original documents like The Declaration or early drafts?

He has the original but yes, there are a few drafts...I called them copies. Obviously they are not copies.

His organization has original parchment copies?

In his video he didn't say anything about his sources or what he has beyond the normal copies of content.

Please stop smearing people. I do not engage in "personal attacks", and the routine 'downvoting' by a handful of hit and run trolls is regardless of content and prior to whatever it is that Blarman claims is the cause. Blarman should take his feuding somewhere else.

The documents, i.e., different drafts, have been published in books, articles and on the web available to anyone world wide. I don't think anyone has a price on his head for having one.

"Rumors flying around" has no credibility. But the nihilist leftists burn flags, not just Wendy's, so it wouldn't be surprising that if they got hold of an original parchment issue of The Declaration or Constitution they would relish burning it.

Let's hope that day never comes.

The copies are at Mercury one (his foundation) and had not really gotten into them.

Ah, so now you're going to engage in personal attacks and you wonder why you're receiving downvotes? Methinks thou doth protest too much...

What I fear is that Glenn Beck will now have a price on his head because he has this document. During the anarchy in DC that rumors flying around at trying to get at Declaration of Independence to burn to ashes.

Blarman's personal feuding and resentment of rejection of religious dogma is not an excuse for his obnoxious behavior, and he isn't the only one here who does it.

Peter's response was not an "error-filled assertion" https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post.... All of his posts are being systematically 'downvoted', regardless of content, by more than one troll.

What I do see today gives cause to some higher degree of fear. Hatred toward "Whites" by "Blacks" is being fueled by those who hope to do harm but have it done by others. Blacks, predominantly those in metro and poor areas are experiencing a higher degree of empowerment bestowed upon them by very ill informed elected and business leaders. These anti American leaders suffer from a deep hatred of Trump and all he stands for but have fostered and re directed this in the black and brown communities as a hatred of Whites. The black and brown communities are merely pawns in their game and expendable as long as the goal of destroying Trump and his base are achieved. Once they get their dirty deeds done the thought of defunding and doing away with police will be a fart in the wind and law enforcement will be back in full and even stronger numbers to put the pawns back in check.
Lord help us if the democrats ever get back to full control of both houses and the WH but the biggest losers will be the black and brown communities. Their way will be to say thanks but now go back to your ghetto and behave.

Thank you for fixing it but it should not be done without acknowledgment, making a later response unintelligible or misleading. That isn't the first time this was done on this thread.

The anti-slave trade clause was in all the known drafts before it was deleted by the committee. There is no draft that is "the one talked about" by Becker, and Glenn Beck didn't say what his source was. It was not a new discovery by Beck of something not already famous.

As Carl Becker observed in his history of The Declaration, its principles were at the time widely accepted: "[T]he strength of the Declaration was precisely that it said what everyone was thinking. Nothing could have been more futile than an attempt to justify a revolution on principles which no one had ever heard of before." That is what they had to rely on that we cannot: the general principles of the Enlightenment emphasizing reason, science, individualism and political freedom.

The statism and collectivism in today's mixed economy is "far different" than outright slavery, but the basic collectivist, irrationalist premises are the same and the trends today are not good. In particular, racism is the crudest form of collectivism. Watching today's hysterical race mongering and violent mass "protests" from the left in general, and the snarling outright race hatred towards "whites" from some of them, it's not hard to predict what would happen if they get more power.

I was actually enjoying your first several posts with the history in them. It wasn't me who started downvoting your posts. But if you'd like me to, I can oblige you with more downvotes. I usually reserve them for people who are being complete jerks or just posting inflammatory/trolling remarks. You'll notice I didn't downvote Peter's remark despite its error-filled assertion.

Sadly, you are correct in that observation.

Projection will always be the tool of the morally/intellectually deficient.