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Star Trek Prime Directive Meets Ayn Rand

Posted by dbhalling 9 years, 9 months ago to Philosophy
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First of all let me say that I cannot believe I am doing an analysis of the Star Trek prime directive. The prime directive states:
“As the right of each sentient species to live in accordance with its normal cultural evolution is considered sacred, no Star Fleet personnel may interfere with the healthy development of alien life and culture. Such interference includes the introduction of superior knowledge, strength, or technology to a world whose society is incapable of handling such advantages wisely. Star Fleet personnel may not violate this Prime Directive, even to save their lives and/or their ship unless they are acting to right an earlier violation or an accidental contamination of said culture. This directive takes precedence over any and all other considerations, and carries with it the highest moral obligation.”

The associated prohibitions are given below (according to Jbrenner)

1. Providing knowledge of technologies or science
2. Taking actions to generally affect a society's overall development
3. Taking actions which support one faction within a society over another
4. Helping a society escape the negative consequences of its own actions
5. Helping a society escape a natural disaster known to the society, even if inaction would result in a society's extinction.
6. Subverting or avoiding the application of a society's laws
7. Interfering in the internal affairs of a society


What would Ayn Rand say about the prime directive. I bet her first question would be what is a sentient species? According to dictionary “sentient” means “able to perceive or feel things.” Well cows, cats, dogs, and many other species can perceive or feel things, in fact much simpler organisms would fit this definition. Based on this definition Rand would state that only rational beings have rights. Rand defined the hierarchy of knowledge integration as sensation, precepts, and conceptual. She explains it perceptual in this example.

“An animal is guided, not merely by immediate sensations, but by percepts. Its actions are not single, discrete responses to single, separate stimuli, but are directed by an integrated awareness of the perceptual reality confronting it. It is able to grasp the perceptual concretes immediately present and it is able to form automatic perceptual associations, but it can go no further.”

My guess is that Rand would then ask what is “normal cultural evolution.” Is it normal cultural evolution to allow Rachel Carson to convince countries to ban DDT and cause 100 million deaths? Is it normal cultural evolution to allow Mao to institute the cultural revolution that will starve over 30 million people to death? There is no such thing a normal cultural evolution. But it rings of Marxist ideas of a scientific progression of society.
Then Rand would ask why normal cultural evolution is considered sacred. According to the dictionary sacred means “connected with God (or the gods) or dedicated to a religious purpose and so deserving veneration.” Rand would reject anything based on an appeal to a deity. The proof of the first sentence of the prime directive rests on an appeal to faith, not reason.
It is clear the Prime Directive is based on faith, not reason and is immoral from the first sentence. I will not take on the rest of the directive but I will look at the prohibitions. The first prohibition is “Providing knowledge of technologies or science.” Given that directive was directed to species that are “able to perceive or feel things” this is almost meaningless. Most species that able to perceive are not able to understand or take advantage of knowledge.
But what about rational beings? Why would you not provide knowledge of technologies or science? Does this mean we cannot teach our kids science and technology? That would clearly be immoral. Your objection might be that they are within our culture, but what about African cultures? Should we have not introduced DDT, or steam engines, or the Internet? While we have no obligation to introduce these sciences and technologies, to purposely prohibit them would be immoral.
All the prohibitions and the prime directives are based group think (and written by Hollywood TV writers!). The word society is mentioned nine times in the Prime Directive and in the prohibitions. Individual is not mentioned once. Societies are based on a collection of people and only have rights based on the rights of the individuals, who make up the society, but none separate from them.
Start Trek’s Prime Directive is an inherently Socialist Ideal and Evil.



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  • Posted by ewv 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    That is true. Reject a collectivist trying to impose his "duties" on you by telling him you are not part of his tribe and assimilation into the Borg is unethical and he knows exactly what you are talking about.

    The popularity of Star Trek and its various slogans and metaphors are an example of how a mixture of basic ideas are transmitted through a culture and become uncritically accepted and reinforced. The reasons justifying the good ones have to be explained and the rest rejected through the kind of discussion right here on this page.
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  • Posted by ewv 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The welfare state and its worsening trend are facts that cannot be ignored in determining immigration policy. There is no natural right for hoards of illiterates to come into a country, change the form of government, and live off the productive. No person of self esteem should be morally intimidated into submitting to what amounts to an invasion. 'Natural rights' does not mean anarchy. It does mean the rights of the rest of us not to have to put up with the invasion.

    The standards for proper immigration policy are rarely discussed today, and that in combination with the disastrous trends in welfare policy and the cultural reasons for it makes it that much more difficult to institute a proper immigration system in accordance with actual natural rights of would-be immigrants.
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  • Posted by ewv 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Might does not make right and I am not talking about an alleged "natural right of Survival [sic] of the fittest".
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  • Posted by khalling 9 years, 8 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "... many people who would want to go to a Gulch appear to have psychological depression (or in their view they see the truth of how miserable conditions really are),"
    gods' hairy balls!!! example please
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 8 months ago
    "I was worried that my profession would just be seen as something that everyone knew since I always tell my students that about 99% of economics is simply applied common sense/reason."
    Things seem like common sense once you know them. Before I ever heard of the notion of something basic like how price floors/ceilings create surplus supply/demand, I would have had to think hard about it.

    Also, many people who would want to go to a Gulch appear to have psychological depression (or in their view they see the truth of how miserable conditions really are), so they should like something called the dismal science. j/k, but not by much.
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    Posted by Maphesdus 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Your analogy doesn't really work because in the scenario you described, there's only one thug. In the situation in Afghanistan, there were two thugs: the Soviets and the Mujahideen. A more accurate analogy would be something like this: On the first of the month, you stop a thug from stealing a package from your neighbor's porch, and then at the end of the month, it isn't the same thug who comes and sets fire to your house, but your neighbor who you tried to help. THAT'S backfiring.

    And while it's true that Bin Laden's actions may have been motivated by Desert Storm, he never would have had the resources necessary to actually put his plans into action if we hadn't funded the Mujahideen in the first place.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    OK, point accepted. I would have included that under item b), but a distinction between violent vs. nonviolent is appropriate. I was referring primarily to winning at the ballot box.
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I disagree. There is a time honored history of those who push back against government by non-violent, and sometimes violent, opposition. Not always with a "military" victory, but a moral one that changed opinion.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We helped Hussein in order to keep Iraq and Iran at each others' throat.
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  • Posted by Hiraghm 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    DISRESPECT IS NOT A VERB!

    sorry, had to be said at the top of my lungs... so to speak...
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  • Posted by $ puzzlelady 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Indeed, I, too, was just reminded of Asimov's 3 laws of robotics. The bottom line for both prime directives is "Do no harm." And especially, "Do no harm [to human beings]."

    Even on earth, where we are supposedly all the same species, the help we give to some can someday be turned against us when groups we didn't help get hold of weapons we provided to our favored ones.

    I would not go so far as to label Roddenberry's humanist ideals as socialist and evil. Almost every episode was a morality play to enlighten humans about some benighted condition, like racism or self-sacrifice as embodied by aliens.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My summer enjoyment in the Gulch should have been over a few days ago, but any Star Trek-related discussion made it worth extending a few more days. I'm going offline for a while to focus on my shrug job. I look forward to being back in the Gulch sometime again, but it might be quite a long time.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I like the fact that they stopped to talk about it, but their discussion makes it sound like the Prime Directive is based on argument from ignorance and appeal to nature.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 9 years, 9 months ago
    Unfortunately the historical skeletons in America's closets have been well hidden. Sometimes the conspiracies exist and the guilty and powerful go to great lengths to prevent their discovery.
    BTW, I understand there is a new movie being released on 9/11.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    One of my past businesses was a waste-to-biofuels company that took advantage of liberal global warming guilt. I gave them environmentally friendly energy or fuel and absolution from their guilt in exchange for a pretty decent chunk of change. We have a lot more in common than I realized.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    How would you like to help run the business side of my business while I run the engineering side? I am a chemical, biomedical, and materials engineering professor at the non-tenure-granting, private Florida Tech. Pay could be a little higher, but it's as good a shrug job as I could ever ask for. Interested in a faculty position? I do have a couple of close friends in our College of Business who are within 1-2 years of retirement.
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  • Posted by zagros 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Good. I was worried that my profession would just be seen as something that everyone knew since I always tell my students that about 99% of economics is simply applied common sense/reason (and the other 1% is simply wrong).
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  • Posted by zagros 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I actually have a paper written on how to "solve" the global warming hysteria quite easily using insurance. The beauty of my plan is that when global warming is proven wrong, all the moneys collected will end up being invested in the market and eventually returned to the policyholders via reduced premiums. If, in the unlikely case that it actually happens, all damages are paid out to those who actually suffer just like any other type of insurance. However, the best part of it is that insurance companies have incentives to actually make investments to stop anything bad from happening since they don't want to pay out claims (unlike governments that will simply use the money to fund more socialist income transfer schemes to buy more votes). By the way, I don't have a problem with externalities that objectively DO exist. I have a problem with externalities that exist on in the minds of socialists and autocrats.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "Do you think you will need economics professors in Atlantis?"
    I say absolutely. People in Atlantis would be interested in studying scarcity and abundance and how people trade scarce good/services.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Point taken, zagros. Socialists will find some externality as an excuse to stick their noses in. Willful non-interference - what a beautiful sound that has! That would take a world based on reason rather than socialism unfortunately.
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